Message from @pratel

Discord ID: 544014545778376705


2019-02-10 04:10:35 UTC  

UN, ISO, WTO, SCO, NATO, Trade blocs and other intergovernmental agreements; International central banking financial institutions like the BIS and the FSB and their roles in global economic policies. 4GW 4th gen warfare and the pros and cons of tech warfare and the current proxy wars. SLOC sea lines of communication and containerization seaport trade. Multipolar world debates, his opinions on meetings like Davos and the G20. Intelligence organization groups like 5 eyes and what should intelligence agencies role be in todays information age. Multinational corporations and their regulation, Global black markets, Internet regulation, World Nuclear policies, Private Military Companies, Global resource management systems, UN security Council reform. International mining contentions and globalization in general. Washington vs Beijing consensus, that kinda shit. Just his overall current state of the world and his opinions on the GFS.

2019-02-10 04:10:43 UTC  

yea just add that lol

2019-02-10 04:11:10 UTC  

Dont bother anonymizing me, I take the space marine approach to camouflage

2019-02-10 04:12:02 UTC  

No one here is trying to be an ancap, they're just looking for a middle path where they can fight the culture war without turning into their enemy

2019-02-10 04:16:35 UTC  

Agreed, but if you refuse to ever consider government anything, you'll eventually end up as either ancap or ancom for logical consistency. And neither of those work in practice. This is one of our strengths, as long as there's ideological diversity free speech and psychological safety, someone within the group should be (hopefully) able to raise alarms before things go out of hand. Becoming the hedgemonic, authoritarian far-left should never be the goal, though their tactics clearly work and have worked so some adoption of their tools and techniques is necessary.

I'll post whenver @Grenade123 gets back to me. Also, if anyone wants to join the group, it was intended to serve as a "memory" of important or valuable conversations on this discord.

2019-02-10 04:19:03 UTC  

Actually, as I mentioned, Trancezustand, things will get very interesting if The Proud Boys become dependent on the Chinese or Russian financial system. And Russia and China would be fools not to consider it. The contradictions involved would be...interesting. But if there's any rule of realpolitic, it's that contradictions can survive so long as there is shared interest between parties.

2019-02-10 04:20:48 UTC  

The Russia collusion conspiracy might become real. Not because it was real to begin with (i.e. Trump colluded), but because it becomes a literal survival necessity for some Trump supporters.

2019-02-10 04:21:29 UTC  

And if the US tried to blacklist the Chinese or Russian financial systems in entirety...that would get bloody.

2019-02-10 04:28:20 UTC  

#kickvic or #istandwithvic personally #istandwithvic because its probably all overblown and misunderstood and the comments man

2019-02-10 04:32:06 UTC  

i like the show me the evidence thomas sowell

2019-02-10 04:32:58 UTC  

vic reffering to the broly voice actor right?

2019-02-10 04:35:06 UTC  

anime is going to be gamergate 2.0 for real

2019-02-10 04:35:43 UTC  

and anime "journos" might take over the industry like they did the gaming world

2019-02-10 04:37:42 UTC  

Already are

2019-02-10 04:38:09 UTC  

Worse then gamer gate

2019-02-10 04:38:22 UTC  

then its worse than i feared already.

2019-02-10 04:39:03 UTC  

cause if gamergate wasnt a failure, gaming journos wouldn't be telling corporates to spread that agenda

2019-02-10 04:39:04 UTC  

That video explains it

2019-02-10 04:39:35 UTC  

So here's the question: What lessons have been learned from GamerGate and ComicsGate?

2019-02-10 04:39:44 UTC  

We have no power

2019-02-10 04:40:01 UTC  

No, it means you've applied the power you have wrong.

2019-02-10 04:40:02 UTC  

And we can't do anything and its meaningless

2019-02-10 04:40:04 UTC  

essentially. the only thing we got from comics gate was independent printers like jawbreakers

2019-02-10 04:40:22 UTC  

and we got a rise of indie developers while EA and others are burning

2019-02-10 04:40:55 UTC  

But don't oversimplify, what specific actions were taken by the players and which were most productive for their respective sides.

2019-02-10 04:40:55 UTC  

Yeesh

2019-02-10 04:41:18 UTC  

overall its been good

2019-02-10 04:41:23 UTC  

You should already know exactly what the "left" side will start yelling.

2019-02-10 04:41:40 UTC  

anime critics have already started countering it

2019-02-10 04:41:52 UTC  

What I see happening is some anime studios close and some manga publishers shut down combo of the gates

2019-02-10 04:41:59 UTC  

#animeright is on the move, and are fighting leftie people

2019-02-10 04:42:31 UTC  

likewise, big reviewers in youtube are unapolgetic and bully lefty anime reviewers

2019-02-10 04:42:39 UTC  

One thing to note: Twitter was playing the censorship games back during GamerGate.

2019-02-10 04:43:16 UTC  

So that should already give you one step. Get the important shit off twitter.

2019-02-10 04:43:28 UTC  

like watching the culture war over animes like shield hero and goblin slayer is interesting

2019-02-10 04:43:40 UTC  

also the abuse of traps on anime

2019-02-10 04:43:59 UTC  

But, like, if you're here talking about it, you probably care enough to take part in it.

2019-02-10 04:44:15 UTC  

What have you personally done? What could you do to expand the movement.

2019-02-10 04:44:22 UTC  

You don't have to answer me here, but do think about it.