Message from @JadenFrostwolf

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2018-03-26 20:54:11 UTC  

well, I mean, I don't know the nature of the complaint

2018-03-26 20:54:32 UTC  

But complaining about work is something EVERYONE does, as you said before.

2018-03-26 20:55:19 UTC  

Yeah, and this was too small of a case, never got attention, and me being your only source can barely remember why. Perhaps she complained in the wrong way or said it in such a way where it could be seen another.

2018-03-26 20:56:28 UTC  

And it actually derailed the main point a bit: that there's this trend coming up of platforms monitoring their users (or jobs monitoring their employees) while off of that platform of off-duty from that job.

2018-03-26 20:56:37 UTC  

As someone who's a business owner, and has been an assistant manager in the past, I can say it would probably depend on the manner in which she complained. if she called Subway out by name, that would be a degree worse than just saying 'Work Sucks'.

2018-03-26 20:56:40 UTC  

Like Twitch monitoring people's activity on twitter and the like.

2018-03-26 20:57:19 UTC  

Yeah, no, I see your point there

2018-03-26 20:57:29 UTC  

There's a point where it crosses a line from protecting a brand

2018-03-26 20:57:35 UTC  

into policing your employees

2018-03-26 20:57:46 UTC  

or in the case of twitch, contractors.

2018-03-26 20:57:53 UTC  

Maybe the work thing was kind of a bad example of my part, because there are good cases and bad cases of that happening.

2018-03-26 20:58:41 UTC  

Like, if I got fired for saying, by name, my employer sucks and nobody should use the service, and talk about what a tool one of our customers are, and release information like that

2018-03-26 20:58:55 UTC  

That's damaging to my employer, they have every right to fire me

2018-03-26 20:59:14 UTC  

But if I simply repost a spicy meme

2018-03-26 20:59:25 UTC  

I shouldn't get called into the manager's office over that.

2018-03-26 20:59:28 UTC  

I guess, but if it's something like "I hate my work hours" or something, that is much more inocuous.

2018-03-26 21:00:30 UTC  

I think the main issue in this discussion is that people are too accustomed to social media being their new "friend/audience"

That they forget that posting on open social media isn't
"Talking to friends" as much as "Announcing to the world"

And as chat is open to interpretation, their followers see it more as a point of noteworthy discussion
Aka, a complaint isn't letting off steam, but a genuine complaint

2018-03-26 21:00:59 UTC  

Jay put that quite well.

2018-03-26 21:01:17 UTC  

It also comes down to what was said and how it's said.

2018-03-26 21:01:25 UTC  

100%.

2018-03-26 21:03:12 UTC  

Oh yeah, my main point was if we would ever reach the point where a lack of social media accounts would ever in and of itself be a red flag to employers, because then there would be nothing for them of you to monitor.

2018-03-26 21:04:02 UTC  

oh that will definately happen,

"bad" branded social media will give you negative rep

2018-03-26 21:04:19 UTC  

like if you're on Gab, a "notorious alt-right blabla" form of twitter

2018-03-26 21:04:24 UTC  

Like having no facebook or twitter, but having Gab account.

2018-03-26 21:05:31 UTC  

that will definately happen,

people are alraedy vilified for following "the wrong" person

2018-03-26 21:06:16 UTC  

My Gab account, for instance, if they actually looked into it would find that I'm pretty much just one of two Nintendo news outlets on there.
But would they even look? lol

2018-03-26 21:06:34 UTC  

depends on if you use your real life info on gab 😛

2018-03-26 21:07:04 UTC  

Which brings up another point: what if your social media accounts don't use your real name or identity?

2018-03-26 21:07:21 UTC  

well as long as they remain anonymous, they'll never know

2018-03-26 21:07:22 UTC  

Like, again, my Gab account being "JadenFrostwolf", not my real name and face.

2018-03-26 21:08:05 UTC  

well if they'd google your name, you wouldn't show up on gab, so you'd be safe

2018-03-26 21:08:37 UTC  

Hopefully that is all they care about.

2018-03-26 21:08:54 UTC  

until all the bad people do it, then the left will push for banning anonimity

2018-03-26 21:09:29 UTC  

Kind of like what's going on right now with the MoneyBadgers calling out Metikur for being anonymous. lol

2018-03-26 21:10:05 UTC  

i haven't picked up on that one yet

2018-03-26 21:10:21 UTC  

but yeah, if they demand the "trolls" get revealed, then you'll get a shitstorm

2018-03-26 21:10:47 UTC  

Metikur and Randomercam got into a bit of a spat in the comment's section of one of Metikur's videos -- the one where he's talking about a pedophile that's also autistic?

2018-03-26 21:11:02 UTC  

Destiny? 😛

2018-03-26 21:11:07 UTC  

Randomercam apparently had issue with Metikur calling him autistic, even though he actually was, or something?

2018-03-26 21:11:42 UTC  

I only have Metikur's perspective of this, since Randomercam I don't think has talked about it.

2018-03-26 21:13:04 UTC  

*Allegedly*, Randomercam made continual and consistent passive-aggressive twitter comments about Metikur, before finally Metikur called him out on it, asking him to come to a livestream to talk about it in the internet equivalent of 'face-to-face.'