Message from @RyeNorth

Discord ID: 427930717356556288


2018-03-26 20:37:29 UTC  

So damn glad I never bought in to Facebook Messenger. I still, reluctantly, have a facebook profile. :\

2018-03-26 20:37:44 UTC  

I deleted my facebook a long time ago.

2018-03-26 20:38:01 UTC  

I basically HAVE to have a facebook profile. :/

2018-03-26 20:38:09 UTC  

Family/job?

2018-03-26 20:38:16 UTC  

Starting a business.

2018-03-26 20:38:22 UTC  

a media business.

2018-03-26 20:38:25 UTC  

Oh.

2018-03-26 20:38:27 UTC  

Yeah.

2018-03-26 20:38:29 UTC  

R.I.P.

2018-03-26 20:38:56 UTC  

I wonder if there will come a time, if it isn't already here, where not having any social media accounts to spy on will be a 'red flag' to employers.

2018-03-26 20:39:49 UTC  

I mean... maybe?

2018-03-26 20:39:49 UTC  

"No facebook, no twitter... oh, but he has a Gab account? Well then... *next!*"

2018-03-26 20:40:07 UTC  

I've always valued internet anonymity.

2018-03-26 20:40:11 UTC  

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it gets to that point.

2018-03-26 20:41:14 UTC  

Yeah, we do, but there's a new trend arising of watching people's other/out-of-work activities. I remember back when this kind of thing first started when someone I know got fired from Subway for comments she made while off-duty *about* Subway.

2018-03-26 20:42:08 UTC  

I mean, that qualifies as a conflict of interests

2018-03-26 20:42:31 UTC  

*Everyone* complains about their job at one point or another, though.

2018-03-26 20:42:32 UTC  

Some employers do include disparagement clauses, as well.

2018-03-26 20:42:48 UTC  

Well, sure.

2018-03-26 20:42:50 UTC  

Even if it's in passing.

2018-03-26 20:43:53 UTC  

The thing is, with social media, we've been toying with something that's EXTREMELY powerful, and yet we've been taking it for granted.

2018-03-26 20:44:47 UTC  

We don't really think about it, but when we post something on Twitter, or on Facebook, we've basically got the same potential as an advertiser does.

2018-03-26 20:45:10 UTC  

That's the difference between posting stuff on social media and saying something with a group of friends.

2018-03-26 20:45:46 UTC  

If that guy at Subway got a private text he sent to a friend, and fired them over that text

2018-03-26 20:45:54 UTC  

or a recorded conversation bitching about work

2018-03-26 20:45:57 UTC  

and got fired over that

2018-03-26 20:46:01 UTC  

100% in the guy's corner

2018-03-26 20:46:13 UTC  

but when you post something on Facebook

2018-03-26 20:46:24 UTC  

You've sent a message into the ether, and you no longer control it.

2018-03-26 20:46:38 UTC  

Someone could share it, and then it's gone.

2018-03-26 20:46:41 UTC  

I understand that, but it still sets a precedent.

2018-03-26 20:50:35 UTC  

I mean, yeah, it does, but Subway, the franchise owner, the district manager, the store manager - they're all required to protect their brand, and someone complaining specifically about Subway when they're paid by them, on social media where the wrong thing could take off beyond even the poster's control, It's a conflict of interest and a risk of brand deprecation.

2018-03-26 20:51:05 UTC  

I 100% understand why they did it. We're playing with powerful toys when it comes to social media.

2018-03-26 20:53:16 UTC  

Maybe they shouldn't give their employees a reason to complain then? Even just firing her over a comment could be seen in and of itself as bad practice. It shows underhandedness and might add legitimacy to the person's claim, where there otherwise might not be.
This isn't even to mention in this particular case where she wasn't going around saying 'Subway sucks' or something. It was years ago now, but if I remember she was complaining about her schedule.

2018-03-26 20:54:11 UTC  

well, I mean, I don't know the nature of the complaint

2018-03-26 20:54:32 UTC  

But complaining about work is something EVERYONE does, as you said before.

2018-03-26 20:55:19 UTC  

Yeah, and this was too small of a case, never got attention, and me being your only source can barely remember why. Perhaps she complained in the wrong way or said it in such a way where it could be seen another.

2018-03-26 20:56:28 UTC  

And it actually derailed the main point a bit: that there's this trend coming up of platforms monitoring their users (or jobs monitoring their employees) while off of that platform of off-duty from that job.

2018-03-26 20:56:37 UTC  

As someone who's a business owner, and has been an assistant manager in the past, I can say it would probably depend on the manner in which she complained. if she called Subway out by name, that would be a degree worse than just saying 'Work Sucks'.

2018-03-26 20:56:40 UTC  

Like Twitch monitoring people's activity on twitter and the like.

2018-03-26 20:57:19 UTC  

Yeah, no, I see your point there