Message from @Arch-Fiend

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2018-04-09 02:39:59 UTC  

and if you go back to the time of the soviet union the entire world was very different

2018-04-09 02:41:10 UTC  

you know the cuban missile crisis was started by us and we committed a literal act of war by blockading cuba? World didn't go into WW3, why would attacking a valid military target that russians should have been in in the first place be worse than that?

2018-04-09 02:41:24 UTC  

during the gulf war russia was a failing empire, now they are a relitively stable yet precariously placed country with more viable threats than they had in the past

2018-04-09 02:41:28 UTC  

shouldn't*

2018-04-09 02:42:32 UTC  

if the russians don't want to be bombed, they should be hanging out with people attacking american soldiers. the same applies to us.

2018-04-09 02:43:33 UTC  

and the ability for both our sides to wag a finger at the other for "attacking us" when we are hanging around their official enemy is why we chill out there

2018-04-09 02:43:35 UTC  

the number of bullets hasent changed much but the number of guns has increased, the eu is in a position to make choices that have a far more meaningful impact (be it good or bad) than they did during the gulf war, the chinese can get involved, while during the gulf they had issues they were sorting out, japan is militerizing (though i think thats a good thing), north korea is on the map and is a mouse carrying dynomite

2018-04-09 02:44:18 UTC  

if north korea makes the first move in any conflict, even china says they are on their own, so i wouldn't count NK in there.

2018-04-09 02:44:40 UTC  

i think its more a consern that they end up taking the second move

2018-04-09 02:45:01 UTC  

NK don't want war. The only reason they want nukes is so that no one invades them.

2018-04-09 02:45:48 UTC  

if the usa is involved in a conflict already of greater magnitude than its been in in 30 years than china wont be as intimidated and will give nk a longer leash, nk will see that and the fact the usa is more distracted as an oppertunity to be a retard

2018-04-09 02:45:48 UTC  

NK needs china, and why would china nuke the us? It would cause them take a major hit to their economy

2018-04-09 02:47:35 UTC  

i've become jaded to WW3 since literally every little thing is "this will be WW3!" and has been that way for basically all of my life.

2018-04-09 02:47:58 UTC  

you know how long "NK is gonna start firing off nukes!" has been around?

2018-04-09 02:48:04 UTC  

the last 10-20 years at least.

2018-04-09 02:48:27 UTC  

hell, why haven't we attacked them yet? aren't we like a year overdue for that now?

2018-04-09 02:48:45 UTC  

china can justify a self defense war much better than it can a world war, but can use a self defense to restructure its economy into a milierized one and low key shift out of consumer communism and into something more like NK but with actual weight behind it

2018-04-09 02:49:30 UTC  

and then need to start a war or kill its own economy?

2018-04-09 02:49:34 UTC  

china basicly uses slave labor already, thats actualy kind of a good place to start if you want a cheap and productive war machine

2018-04-09 02:50:27 UTC  

i think the thing is no one wants to be first, because the first shooter is the loser right now

2018-04-09 02:50:38 UTC  

thats why im complaining about america and its bullshit

2018-04-09 02:50:54 UTC  

admitedly america can get away with shooting first and maybe winning

2018-04-09 02:51:10 UTC  

they didn't shoot first, russia already shot first in syria

2018-04-09 02:51:15 UTC  

but it gives everyone else an excuse to do what theyve wanted to do for 50 years

2018-04-09 02:51:28 UTC  

syria is their alley

2018-04-09 02:51:31 UTC  

and they have been accused of using chemical weapons in syria

2018-04-09 02:51:46 UTC  

you can only spin russia as a bad guy there if your cnn

2018-04-09 02:51:49 UTC  

and are still in hot water over the whole diplomat poisoning

2018-04-09 02:52:08 UTC  

theres substantial evidence they didint actually do that poisoning

2018-04-09 02:52:25 UTC  

Nor use chemical weapons.

2018-04-09 02:53:00 UTC  

consitering they were accused of that before the actual poison was identified and it turned out to not actually be the poison that the uk accused them of using

2018-04-09 02:53:05 UTC  

there is no "shooting first" in syria anymore. because both sides have backed 1 or more sides.

2018-04-09 02:53:14 UTC  

and conveniently that story never made it to MSM

2018-04-09 02:53:49 UTC  

like the girl who was poisoned is awake right now

2018-04-09 02:53:56 UTC  

has been for a month

2018-04-09 02:54:02 UTC  

i've basically written off any conflict in the middle east area as just more of the same bullshit

2018-04-09 02:54:23 UTC  

russia wasent really involved until recently

2018-04-09 02:54:41 UTC  

you must remimber, staying out of russias shit was why we voted against hillery

2018-04-09 02:54:52 UTC  

it just kind of seems like that didint go anywhere

2018-04-09 02:55:02 UTC  

yes, so now history is going to repeat itself over there?

2018-04-09 02:55:19 UTC  

no, like i just said the world is a different place now