Message from @Giant Energy Penis

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2018-05-03 19:27:05 UTC  

thats a scary rise in that "journalists imprisoned" chart at the bottom http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-43961380

2018-05-03 19:29:35 UTC  

it's not really surprising, though

2018-05-03 19:31:06 UTC  

hmm it probably doesnt mean anything.. and is just an odd coincidence.. but the rise in imprisoned journalists is inversely proportional to the major stock markets - you can see it clearly when there was a big dip in 2012, the imprisoned journalist count went up

2018-05-03 19:31:49 UTC  

although that fails in the last 2 years... 😛

2018-05-03 20:14:08 UTC  

I don't see why it wouldn't be directly linked at face value

2018-05-03 20:16:27 UTC  

Who drives the people that drive the stock value that drives the money that drives the law that drives the media (and repeat)

2018-05-03 20:17:12 UTC  

yeah I suppose.... as they say... follow the money

2018-05-03 20:22:19 UTC  

is it me or is calling someone "right-wing" to "defame" them a weird concept... considering we live in capitalist societies where the majority actually vote right wing

2018-05-03 20:38:15 UTC  

I think that's the focus of a video Tim is doing, everything is so extremely left that even Tim thinks he is center, to put it in perspective I think Tim is left AF, which he is, he is a liberal, but he isn't drastically left, nor retarded left

2018-05-03 20:39:03 UTC  

Anything that isn't SJW is an insult in media, so to them Tim is a conservative alt right

2018-05-03 20:39:37 UTC  

ok but just to be clear, saying he is left... and saying he is liberal, are 2 different things

2018-05-03 20:39:38 UTC  

Which makes me satan himself lol

2018-05-03 20:40:02 UTC  

like you can be right and liberal... and you can be left and authoritarian

2018-05-03 20:41:01 UTC  

It shouldn't though, left and right is where peeps physically sit in parliament, Tim would sit on the left of the room and argue with me on the right

2018-05-03 20:41:46 UTC  

the founders of the US were right wing liberals

2018-05-03 20:41:49 UTC  

left and right are just opinions on what would be the best system to run a society economically

2018-05-03 20:42:06 UTC  

they wanted individual rights - and the rights to own property

2018-05-03 20:42:36 UTC  

the other axis is Authoritarian - Liberal, which is a system on how to best run a society socially

2018-05-03 20:45:24 UTC  

@wacka I grew up in a part of the country where it was totally normalised to think of "the right" as a thing that doesn't exist except in backwards, incredibly low intelligence places where everyone has a thick accent.

2018-05-03 20:45:38 UTC  

Nobody was contrarian to this in the classroom and nobody really brought it up as a concept.

2018-05-03 20:46:14 UTC  

If that's all you're exposed to and there's no contrarian opinion or really anything, it's totally normal to think that if you've never been exposed to it.

2018-05-03 20:46:56 UTC  

were you raised in eurasia?

2018-05-03 20:47:12 UTC  

I wasn't even exposed to THAT,

To me, Left was caring about society, and Right was caring about the economy

boy was i wrongly informed

2018-05-03 20:48:04 UTC  

I'm close enough to chicago where I'm impacted by all of their bullshit laws, if that tells you anything.

2018-05-03 20:48:22 UTC  

😬 🔫

2018-05-03 20:48:45 UTC  

Yeah, from what I recall of my education, there wasn't any deep philosophical discussions or attempts at explaining anything relating to political parties or anything.

2018-05-03 20:48:57 UTC  

"This is the system. This is how the system works. Here's a very condensed, ultra-simplified version of American history."

2018-05-03 20:49:52 UTC  

So from what I remember it was less "the left cares about society and the right cares about the economy" and more "the left cares about society, the left also cares about the economy, and we're not going to say it outright but we can imply that because we, the left, are the good guys, then.. *they're* the bad guys."

2018-05-03 20:51:12 UTC  

yeah, so basically "left = good, right = bad" mentality

2018-05-03 20:51:24 UTC  

It wasn't until I was in high school with a very unorthodox teacher (at times) that I was even introduced to the concept that it's not automatically a good thing that a) everyone thinks the same way or b) that everyone is on the left.

2018-05-03 20:51:35 UTC  

Also, coincidentally, my first experience with one of those political spectrum tests.

2018-05-03 20:52:15 UTC  

Of which, I, and pretty much everyone in the class ended up left/lib, roughly 2/3rds closer to the middle than the outer edge.

2018-05-03 20:52:29 UTC  

There's a reason why this conditioning is so damn difficult to break I imagine.

2018-05-03 20:52:46 UTC  

It's the same shit that happens to kids born into ultra religious families.

2018-05-03 20:53:22 UTC  

the trick, is getting a hot chick to explain right-wing politics, trust me 😛 it will all make sense

2018-05-03 20:53:26 UTC  

Hah.

2018-05-03 20:53:37 UTC  

i imagine you probably get a skewed american history lesson about republicans too

2018-05-03 20:54:21 UTC  

like did they even mention how the KKK assassinated hundreds of white republicans for their views? or that it was a republican that wrote the 13th amendment?

2018-05-03 20:54:46 UTC  

Im not saying theyre the same party as they were then...

2018-05-03 20:55:19 UTC  

It's honestly all a blur. The most I remember is that because of the string of constant moves I basically ended up relearning the exact same stuff over and over again in slightly greater detail each time.

2018-05-03 20:55:50 UTC  

I remember that they taught us that the cause of the civil war was primarily because of slavery and that abraham lincoln was the president ultimately involved in freeing them.