Yes but they were not as widely supported as in the South, it's that simple. Perhaps Lincoln put the nail in the coffin but his threats didn't exactly stop other states from succeeding

Because for those southern states they already hated lincoln to the gut

they knew slavery was going to be abolished one way or another

the border states were hoping that lincoln delivered on his promise

"that he wont touch slavery in already-established states"

and Lincoln did deliver that promise all the way until after the Civil War

But to stay on topic

for a state to even secede

they have to be financially independent of the federal government

to prove that they dont need the father anymore

and even attempting to reject one block grant leads to the federal government being wary of them

They have to be not only financially dependent but capable of providing external defense and everything else involved in being an independent country

which states already do

lmao

Every state is technically a country

their national guard is essentially the state militia and their army

But all they need

is the money

$$$

From a state's point of view, if they wish to just manage internal affairs, why would they pursue independence for incredible added responsibility?

And no, a state within the USA is nowhere near an independent country

>California

>Texas

>Florida

California is probably the best example

since their GDP power is stronger than some of the European nations in the EU

Not really. States cannot manage treaties, for example. There are a ton of restrictions on what states can and cannot do

States cannot manage treaties

but when has the federal government actually manage treaties

lol

The new buzz word is called "agreements"

or "protocols"

In fact the U.S. has not been in a war or in any new political treaty since 1945.

Once again, I'm not arguing that a select few states couldn't "make it" as independent nations, i'm saying they have neither the desire nor the means to make it happen.

They have the means

they just don't have the desire

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_treaties

California can secede, but it needs fucking water

Exactly, so they don't have the means because they can't provide water, a basic need, on their own, and have no desire to do so

they do have the means

they just choose not to