Message from @Techpriest
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It was everywhere to be fair, some were much better off but it would have failed either way. Even if only, say, the Eastern states only declared their own group of states, they'd still most likely have lost
i doubt it
This exact reason was, in fact, why Lee made his terrible choice as Gettysburg. He believed the only way to win the war was an absolutely crushing defeat against the Union and that no matter how many battles he "won" he'd always be losing as he could not replenish his men or supplies, hence his charge and subsequent annihilation
The Confederacy just needed the 4 border states
to join them
but they never did
Lincoln ensured that
"any fucker trying to secede will be hung for treason"
Even made West Virginia
There were more reasons than just Lincoln for the border states not succeeding
>than just lincoln
wtf
There were literally secession movements starting in the border states
had lincoln not announced he was gonna hang every seceders by the noose
Those border states would have divided
and we would have more than just west virginia
south kentucky north kentucky
All of these would have driven the American Civil War to a longer war
Yes but they were not as widely supported as in the South, it's that simple. Perhaps Lincoln put the nail in the coffin but his threats didn't exactly stop other states from succeeding
Because for those southern states they already hated lincoln to the gut
the border states were hoping that lincoln delivered on his promise
"that he wont touch slavery in already-established states"
and Lincoln did deliver that promise all the way until after the Civil War
But to stay on topic
for a state to even secede
they have to be financially independent of the federal government
to prove that they dont need the father anymore
and even attempting to reject one block grant leads to the federal government being wary of them
They have to be not only financially dependent but capable of providing external defense and everything else involved in being an independent country
which states already do
lmao
Every state is technically a country
their national guard is essentially the state militia and their army
But all they need
is the money
$$$
From a state's point of view, if they wish to just manage internal affairs, why would they pursue independence for incredible added responsibility?
And no, a state within the USA is nowhere near an independent country
>California
>Texas