Message from @Yolo56Swagger

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2019-05-16 14:50:36 UTC  

It has been shown that re training programs designed with the intent to soften the blows of automation never have a success rate of over 15%

2019-05-16 14:51:17 UTC  

To put it in Yang's own words, "People who think we can re train miners and factory workers to become programmers and software developers" technically are neither

2019-05-16 14:51:19 UTC  

And its true

2019-05-16 14:51:41 UTC  

You have to look at the kinds of people who will be displaced by automation

2019-05-16 14:51:43 UTC  

Like truckers

2019-05-16 14:51:51 UTC  

The most common job in 29 states in the US

2019-05-16 14:52:01 UTC  

The average age is somewhere in the 40s

2019-05-16 14:52:08 UTC  

Most don't even have a highschool education

2019-05-16 14:52:22 UTC  

Its ridiculous to assume they will be able to go back to school to find a job in the evolving economy

2019-05-16 14:52:27 UTC  

And even if we assume that they could

2019-05-16 14:52:44 UTC  

What would give them the financial security to go back to school and re train themselves to get a better job?

2019-05-16 14:52:49 UTC  

$1000/month

2019-05-16 14:53:30 UTC  

In the study itself it says "To achieve good outcomes, policy makers and
business leaders will need to embrace automation’s
benefits and, at the same time, address the worker
transitions brought about by these technologies."

2019-05-16 14:53:37 UTC  

And that is exactly what Andrew is doing

2019-05-16 14:54:36 UTC  

He is putting forward policy which will allow the American public to reap the benefits of automation and which would allow people more freedom and financial security to do things like change jobs or move state

2019-05-16 14:54:50 UTC  

Leading to a more dynamic economy which can evolve with the times

2019-05-16 14:55:19 UTC  

@Chemar That study actually kind of proves that Andrew isn't overexaggerating and just re affirms what he says

2019-05-16 14:55:42 UTC  

Sorry for the rant lol

2019-05-16 14:56:09 UTC  

But it annoys me when people send a source and say that their point is instantly proven

2019-05-16 14:56:49 UTC  

Not gonna lie but that’s a lot of words

2019-05-16 14:59:12 UTC  

U know what’s a annoying 10 frickin paragraphs to express an opinion

2019-05-16 15:00:06 UTC  

details means more info

2019-05-16 15:00:12 UTC  

which is good in some cases

2019-05-16 15:00:15 UTC  

like debate

2019-05-16 15:07:44 UTC  

👍

2019-05-16 15:09:01 UTC  

If you look at this part of the study it says in the midpoint scenario every developed country will have between 20% to 27% of its workforce displaced by automation

2019-05-16 15:09:05 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/523835768813387796/578599813290000406/unknown.png

2019-05-16 15:09:36 UTC  

And that's the MIDPOINT scenario which means its not even worst case

2019-05-16 15:09:49 UTC  

Do you realise how catastrophic that'd be to a country

2019-05-16 15:10:05 UTC  

And the point is this study assumes itd be possible to retrain those people

2019-05-16 15:10:20 UTC  

But when you look at what's happened in the past, retraining is never that successful

2019-05-16 15:10:32 UTC  

Andrew really isn't overexaggerating

2019-05-16 15:24:42 UTC  

except andrew really is a retard

2019-05-16 15:26:14 UTC  

They never really tell you how exactly it's going to get displaced

2019-05-16 15:26:18 UTC  

just spit out some bullshit numbers

2019-05-16 15:31:57 UTC  

@The Lemon If you watch the video I linked, Andrew (not yang, the senior political analyst at DWR ) addresses the truck driver issue

2019-05-16 15:33:11 UTC  

But, to put it simply, automation of trucking is nowhere near being commonplace and even if it did, these trucks would steal need a driver, just one capable of handling the truck's automated systems. Think of how airplanes have autopilot, but still require pilots.

2019-05-16 15:46:04 UTC  

Ok I was just looking at the study cited in that video and it says this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/523835768813387796/578609119758516234/unknown.png

2019-05-16 15:46:38 UTC  

This also

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/523835768813387796/578609263874801686/unknown.png

2019-05-16 15:47:11 UTC  

What is says basically is that only 3.8 mill actual truckers will lose their jobs but up to 12 million people who do work in other parts of the industry will also lose their jobs

2019-05-16 15:47:29 UTC  

That dosen't sound like its not going to be a problem at all like the video you sent says