Message from @Niwa

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2018-05-09 20:34:01 UTC  

individuals all have that devine spark, even the dumbest ones

2018-05-09 20:34:16 UTC  

does not change the fact that there are average IQ differences between races

2018-05-09 20:34:22 UTC  

and they are important

2018-05-09 20:34:29 UTC  

I disagree

2018-05-09 20:35:37 UTC  

I dont think they are important... because it could just happen to be this way... like if they tested the average IQ based on hair colour.. maybe red heads would turn out to have higher IQ .. but 30 yrs later it might just happen to be blondes at that time

2018-05-09 20:36:02 UTC  

they might, but it would be in function of their race, because black people tend to only have black or brown hair

2018-05-09 20:36:26 UTC  

for example

2018-05-09 20:36:29 UTC  

ok.. so if they only tested white people then .. either way

2018-05-09 20:36:41 UTC  

then they average out to the white people bell curve

2018-05-09 20:37:02 UTC  

the multi variate analysis have been done folks

2018-05-09 20:37:11 UTC  

the defining characteristic is race

2018-05-09 20:37:14 UTC  

you cant have meaningfull data unless you tested several generations

2018-05-09 20:37:34 UTC  

like i said, if you dont trust IQ nothing in psych makes sense, from its inception to now

2018-05-09 20:37:35 UTC  

IQ tells me how educated someone is, not necessarily how smart they are.

2018-05-09 20:37:36 UTC  

but even then .. it tells you nothing about anyone

2018-05-09 20:37:56 UTC  

it tells you performance on tasks

2018-05-09 20:38:01 UTC  

although the term "smart" is relative

2018-05-09 20:38:08 UTC  

specifically tasks that have change all the time

2018-05-09 20:38:14 UTC  

I mean the stats... they tell you nothing

2018-05-09 20:38:19 UTC  

they do

2018-05-09 20:38:32 UTC  

Isn't IQ considered to be an outdated measurement with flaws though?

2018-05-09 20:38:38 UTC  

higher IQ people are more successfull, which is outweighed by every other personality trait

2018-05-09 20:38:55 UTC  

IQ is the most solid pysch mesurement we have

2018-05-09 20:38:59 UTC  

ok.. say you tested all white people and it turned out people who wore blue hats for the test had higher IQ on average.. what does that tell you?

2018-05-09 20:39:05 UTC  

example IQ question:

"Find two words, one from each group, that are the closest in meaning:
Group A

talkative, job, ecstatic

Group B

angry, wind, loquacious

a. talkative and wind

b. job and angry

c. talkative and loquacious

d. ecstatic and angry"

you need to know the definition of these words

2018-05-09 20:39:06 UTC  

it gets tested with every psych test every time

2018-05-09 20:39:24 UTC  

learning word definitions correlates with IQ

2018-05-09 20:39:26 UTC  

an uneducated person is not going to know the term "loquacious"

2018-05-09 20:39:48 UTC  

they wont

2018-05-09 20:39:50 UTC  

and they havent

2018-05-09 20:40:22 UTC  

this is my core problem with IQ tests. if you think it related to biologically based smarts

2018-05-09 20:40:35 UTC  

I understand IQ is important .. what Im saying is... it has nothing to do with race

2018-05-09 20:40:40 UTC  

its not pure biology based

2018-05-09 20:40:46 UTC  

its between 50-80% biology

2018-05-09 20:41:10 UTC  

and thats fine, but people use it as that.

2018-05-09 20:41:12 UTC  

and it has something to do with race, pretty streight up

2018-05-09 20:41:17 UTC  

no doubt about it

2018-05-09 20:41:29 UTC  

lets take twin studies for example

2018-05-09 20:41:30 UTC  

biological race? or culture of certain races?

2018-05-09 20:41:35 UTC  

you take genetic twins

2018-05-09 20:41:38 UTC  

same genes