Message from @Green Syndicalism

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2019-05-28 06:01:51 UTC  

that leads to the company going bankrupt

2019-05-28 06:02:03 UTC  

no dude the workers vote for management and you can have *policy for retrenchments*

2019-05-28 06:02:23 UTC  

If people dont like the retrenchments, bad luck

2019-05-28 06:02:27 UTC  

next AGM they can vote on it

2019-05-28 06:02:48 UTC  

it isnt that simple

2019-05-28 06:02:49 UTC  

if they run the business into the ground, *they lose their job*

2019-05-28 06:03:12 UTC  

people will run the business for their own benefit (to keep their jobs)

2019-05-28 06:03:17 UTC  

actually lets think about like this bro

2019-05-28 06:03:20 UTC  

say you have 1000 workers

2019-05-28 06:03:23 UTC  

directors usually look to keep the company afloat

2019-05-28 06:03:28 UTC  

and you have $10000 in profit

2019-05-28 06:03:32 UTC  

each worker gets $10

2019-05-28 06:03:37 UTC  

if you fire 100 people

2019-05-28 06:03:43 UTC  

theres 900 people sharing $10000

2019-05-28 06:03:45 UTC  

guess what

2019-05-28 06:03:52 UTC  

*theyve increased their wages*

2019-05-28 06:03:53 UTC  

it doesent work like that

2019-05-28 06:03:58 UTC  

yes it fucking does

2019-05-28 06:04:03 UTC  

so the argument goes both ways

2019-05-28 06:04:18 UTC  

if you fire the workforce, then the output would also decrese

2019-05-28 06:04:25 UTC  

yes so they cant fire everyone

2019-05-28 06:04:26 UTC  

decreased output= less profit

2019-05-28 06:04:33 UTC  

less profit= lower wages

2019-05-28 06:04:35 UTC  

theyre incentivised to fire the optimal amount

2019-05-28 06:04:41 UTC  

if they fire too many, they lose wages

2019-05-28 06:04:47 UTC  

if they keep too many, they lose wages

2019-05-28 06:04:48 UTC  

that is already done EVERYWHERE

2019-05-28 06:05:00 UTC  

except in this system, the workers have it better

2019-05-28 06:05:01 UTC  

thats how modern businesses are run

2019-05-28 06:05:03 UTC  

YES

2019-05-28 06:05:07 UTC  

so stop arguing against it

2019-05-28 06:05:13 UTC  

they already have the worker number in check

2019-05-28 06:05:34 UTC  

no but dude, in the modern system, a higher share of the profits goes to the shareholders who dont work

2019-05-28 06:05:35 UTC  

and they re-structure when needed

2019-05-28 06:05:48 UTC  

if you dont have to ship off billions to shareholders, you get more for the workers

2019-05-28 06:05:50 UTC  

@Green Syndicalism because thats called an investment

2019-05-28 06:06:30 UTC  

yep and if you change the nature of investment from favouring couch potato old fucks, to giving the workers the capital, you get a *better and happier workforce*

2019-05-28 06:06:42 UTC  

workers just have no capital

2019-05-28 06:06:51 UTC  

these potatoes have hundreds of millions

2019-05-28 06:06:53 UTC  

even billions

2019-05-28 06:06:54 UTC  

thats my fucking point