have you ever heard of "kibbutz"?

If you leave a bunch of anarchists in a room for 48 hours do they come out with a leader ?

not the guy from GTA

kibbutz are governed by israel

True dat

today

they existed before the state of Israel

That’s more of a commune

those were small communities

Not an entire society

without a government

self governance

GG @chuckayy, you just advanced to level 1!

sure

Yea but scale that up

ig it depends how you define government

And you end up with us living in a society

^

yup therefore you can acheive communism by making a lot of tiny communities cooperating and trading goods

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Large scale communism doesn’t work

you can though because some group will just take them over

cant*

Someone has to seize the means of production

this is not what happened in Israel

they cooperated

And they won’t give it back

small scale communes were possible at a time before globalism

Correct

native americans for example

tribes

@ImP0steR how you gonna seize the means of production?

nope actually because of globalism and better way of communications you can make it on a larger scale

GG @ImP0steR, you just advanced to level 8!

tribes were hostiles

cuz of lack of communications

they didn't cooperate

ye at a larger scale

thats what were sayin

at small scales communes can exist but at broader scales it wont

people form group