I live in Europe you live in saudi

im not talking about money

you can produce big yields like I do

i told you think theoretically a system without money and only goods

then reread what i just said again

and you need it as much as I need your oil for my machines

so all resources are equally important

youre assuming equal value of all communes

first of all you won't establish a commune in a place where you got nothing to offer

its the type of false utopian assumptions communist thought is based upon

it has zero practical value

unfortunately

thats besides the point

there is either unequal value in each location or there isnt

that's wrong, because what you call "communists" are those socialists from eastern Europe that wanted to steal all the goods and oppress the people

nope

im arguing against textbook marxism

I'm not promoting marxism

I'm talking about a new type of communism that is learning from the failures of the past

i mean youre not addressing the points i bring up

not recycling the same ideas that failed

unless each commune has equal value, some group on the planet will inevitably want to take value from another commune

this is the story of human history

nope, because the term of value in a system without a currency like money will be meaningless. we will talk in a language of needs and usage

what I can do with what you offer

not how much it worth

thats false and i explained it already so im not going in circles

it's not false, it's just you are stuck with the actual world system based on values and you impose it on another system that get rid of that kind of language

nope

forget money

the output of each commune will be unequal regardless

all your assumptions on humans are based on the logic of the actual system

has absolutely nothing to do with money

so you struggle to think out of the box

lol

because the actual system push humans to consume and conquest so you assume that's the human nature

you are mixing the cause and effect

not blaming you

most people do

its human nature to support their offspring

it's intuitive to do it