Message from @ImP0steR

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2019-06-25 14:22:50 UTC  

I'm not promoting marxism

2019-06-25 14:23:11 UTC  

I'm talking about a new type of communism that is learning from the failures of the past

2019-06-25 14:23:12 UTC  

i mean youre not addressing the points i bring up

2019-06-25 14:23:18 UTC  

not recycling the same ideas that failed

2019-06-25 14:23:35 UTC  

unless each commune has equal value, some group on the planet will inevitably want to take value from another commune

2019-06-25 14:23:42 UTC  

this is the story of human history

2019-06-25 14:24:13 UTC  

nope, because the term of value in a system without a currency like money will be meaningless. we will talk in a language of needs and usage

2019-06-25 14:24:17 UTC  

what I can do with what you offer

2019-06-25 14:24:21 UTC  

not how much it worth

2019-06-25 14:24:33 UTC  

thats false and i explained it already so im not going in circles

2019-06-25 14:25:11 UTC  

it's not false, it's just you are stuck with the actual world system based on values and you impose it on another system that get rid of that kind of language

2019-06-25 14:25:26 UTC  

nope

2019-06-25 14:25:29 UTC  

forget money

2019-06-25 14:25:37 UTC  

the output of each commune will be unequal regardless

2019-06-25 14:25:37 UTC  

all your assumptions on humans are based on the logic of the actual system

2019-06-25 14:25:42 UTC  

has absolutely nothing to do with money

2019-06-25 14:25:45 UTC  

so you struggle to think out of the box

2019-06-25 14:25:50 UTC  

lol

2019-06-25 14:26:24 UTC  

because the actual system push humans to consume and conquest so you assume that's the human nature

2019-06-25 14:26:32 UTC  

you are mixing the cause and effect

2019-06-25 14:26:36 UTC  

not blaming you

2019-06-25 14:26:39 UTC  

most people do

2019-06-25 14:26:44 UTC  

its human nature to support their offspring

2019-06-25 14:26:49 UTC  

it's intuitive to do it

2019-06-25 14:27:05 UTC  

which on a scale of entire populations will include some people willing to take from others

2019-06-25 14:27:12 UTC  

thats not an assumption

2019-06-25 14:27:13 UTC  

thats reality

2019-06-25 14:27:23 UTC  

something something youn struggle to think out of the box

2019-06-25 14:27:41 UTC  

it is an assumption, otherwise how you can explain people wants to get rid of this logic?

2019-06-25 14:28:03 UTC  

i want to get rid of murder worldwide

2019-06-25 14:28:06 UTC  

is that practical

2019-06-25 14:28:08 UTC  

yes or no

2019-06-25 14:28:13 UTC  

yes

2019-06-25 14:28:15 UTC  

kk

2019-06-25 14:28:17 UTC  

done

2019-06-25 14:28:21 UTC  

it's beneficial

2019-06-25 14:28:32 UTC  

beneficial =/= practical

2019-06-25 14:28:36 UTC  

this is why our civilization evolved to these morals

2019-06-25 14:28:47 UTC  

since we benefit from societies without murderer

2019-06-25 14:29:32 UTC  

rome benefited from the murder and sacking of all of europe

2019-06-25 14:29:43 UTC  

how practical is it to promote murder on a scale of a society