Oh sorry I didn’t see you guys having a discussion

Do.you happen to have a pdf on Hans morgenthau ?

@Deleted User not by definition. WWII Veterans have stated that the conditions there are worse than it was in Auschwitz, I think at least. no genocide atm just shitty treatment of the immigrants

I got my ass beat by a guy who said they were those things. Probably because I’m shit at debate but also because he said he was in it to win it

Like debates are some sort of combat when

I was trying to actually understand him

So I just wanted to see what people here had to say

Debate is a forum to learn for me.
For some, most really, its a platform to try and force your opinion onto people.

I love hearing opposing facts and ideas. It helps my noggin expand.

Same, debating him was actually really good for me

Made me look at different perspectives even though being called a dog whistling reactionary hurt

@EJGalecio i dunno who that is

Be careful though, @Deleted User intelligent people can use logical fallacies to make it seem like they are right when they are misleading you.

They muddy the water so you can't see thru it.

Well shit

True

GG @Deleted User, you just advanced to level 1!

I might be lower IQ than some people, so logical fallacies, psychological slight of hands and sophistry fuck with me

Or I might be feeling really dumb

I think that’s what he was trying to do

Read up on some logical fallacies. I tend to think I'm pretty smart but even I get thrown off by them. That is why they are used, if you aren't looking for it you can slip and fall.

If something doesn't connect or make sense its possible they are using a fallacy, maybe even without knowing it.

AHHHHHHHHH RIP PUERTO RICO GOVERNOR

Yeah that’s true, I’ve seen people make fallacies on accident

It’s just annoying when it sounds good at first but then you think about it

Then it’s complete nonsense

Sometimes you have an idea or remember reading something and can't quite put it in words and end up slipping into a fallacy to get the point across easier.

Can't really blame too many people for doing it. Its just good to know when it happens to avoid getting persuaded wrongfully. This is the key to being a good consumer of information.

Well the only reason I out right didn’t like this guy is because he said that it was a battle

A way of humiliating me to prove me wrong

So everyone would just think I was retarded and move on

But when it comes to these things I always want to be heard out respectfully

So yeah I was pretty pissed about the whole thing

If he used a fallacy on purpose or not idk

But he did say that was his goal

The fact that you can think about it like that is good. To conceptualize it. Yeah it sucks that it has to be a "battle". That is totally feeding his ego right there, has nothing to do with learning or debating.

Well it’s whatever now, plus a lot of it was me being trash at debate

And I didn’t fully read into all of the topics we went over

Hey man, debate is totally about practice and learning/knowing the topics.

But he would just throw insults at me and I personally am not good with debating like that

Oh yeah, naw if he insults you that is a red flag.