to rob everyone

taxes = involuntary exchange that came about through evolutionary mechanisms

Not to save them

and help them and the nation

ur the 1 making it simple
u ignore the fact health care costs so much cus of the goverment making a shity system that gives to anyone
even people who are fat and lazy and need to see a doctor 5 times a week
No wonder it costs so much when ur entire population thinks pizza is a vetoable

i love how you completely ignored my argument

i cant talk to 3 ppl at once

can i?

Shame

here is what you dont get:
your premise is that you work for money hence it should exclusively be yours.

but that income is contingent on a functional society which provides the necessary conditions for the income to occur at the rate that it does. now the reason we have a welfare state all over the west is due to evolutionary reasons, if we didnt move in this concessionary manner, capitalism would have collapsed through a series of revolutions all over the west because people were doing so poorly under the laissez faire models. the welfare state came about through evolutionary mechanisms and by wishing it away and thinking it would create a better society, you're ignoring the circumstances behind its emergence in the first place.

Poor soul

You were against government a while ago

tax is not volenery, if i refuse to pay it i go to jail

there was a big lull in conversation, so you could have actually

simple fact

its involuntary

tax = pay us or we hurt u

Well guess what if you don't have taxes the nation would collapse into chaos

@Green Syndicalism I've seen it over and over again here. Some of these folks don't read nor address arguments. Especially if it's more than a short paragraph or so.

Goddamn leftie commie dems.

The people with power will hurt those with less power even more

the ability to read more than one sentence has diminished with steve jobs

its rly amazing

how u can niot pick what i say

here is what you dont get:
your premise is that you work for money hence it should exclusively be yours.

but that income is contingent on a functional society which provides the necessary conditions for the income to occur at the rate that it does. now the reason we have a welfare state all over the west is due to evolutionary reasons, if we didnt move in this concessionary manner, capitalism would have collapsed through a series of revolutions all over the west because people were doing so poorly under the laissez faire models. the welfare state came about through evolutionary mechanisms and by wishing it away and thinking it would create a better society, you're ignoring the circumstances behind its emergence in the first place.

READ

how u will straw man and tell me WHAT I bealive lol

read you illiterate mf

And what did you say as counter argument to that?

Agh

ur arguiong like i want no tax at all

when i said around 10%

Now you're just trying to defend yourself by bringing stupid arguments

he wants the destructive parts of the state to remain in place, and to remove the nice bits

It shows you don't actually understand the puropse of taxes and why we need them

lol did u run out of points to make ?

he doesnt understand the welfare state came about as a concession to a very popular socialist movement all over the west

ur calling me stupid for telling u to stop straw mining me

amazing debate skills

And how is that straw mining you?