Message from @wacka

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2018-05-23 19:22:32 UTC  

Im not even sure how you would make a law protecting free speech

2018-05-23 19:23:46 UTC  

back to the subject at hand If you look back to the topic at hand, the declared trumps twitter account, not twitter as a whole, a public form

2018-05-23 19:24:04 UTC  

On an unrelated note the Battlefield V reveal will be soon and I was all hyped till I found it would be hosted by Trevor Noah.

2018-05-23 19:24:56 UTC  

Trevor isn't that bad as a comic on his own. there are better by far, but some of his off the cuff stuff can be decently funny when he is not talking politics

2018-05-23 19:25:02 UTC  

yeah twitter seems to go from private company that can do what it likes, to public forum depending on many things... the day of the week.. the cycle of the moon, what side of the bed trump falls out of

2018-05-23 19:26:31 UTC  

"To determine which of the standards of student expression applies in a given case, many courts first conduct a "public forum analysis." The public forum analysis determines whether individuals may have access to places for communicative purposes."
"we hold that **portions** of @realdonaldtrump count as a public form"

basically, he cannot deny people the ability to contact him on twitter, is how i am reading this

2018-05-23 19:27:28 UTC  

"the interactive spaces where twitter users may directly engage with content of the presidents tweets"

which this part i think backs up https://i.redd.it/xwm7ome3hnz01.png

2018-05-23 19:27:44 UTC  

yet they ban people all the time for no good reason

2018-05-23 19:27:51 UTC  

so

2018-05-23 19:28:08 UTC  

well, its not twitter that can't block people, its the owner of the account.

2018-05-23 19:28:23 UTC  

now, it would be interesting to see what would happen if twitter banned trumps account

2018-05-23 19:28:36 UTC  

if twitter bans someone that has ever directly engaged with the president on his tweets, thus removing their tweet from the public pervew. are they doing the same thing?

2018-05-23 19:28:40 UTC  

which, didn't it get temp deleted once by a leaving employee?

2018-05-23 19:28:41 UTC  

well they did.. for like a day or something

2018-05-23 19:29:03 UTC  

even if the ban was unrelated

2018-05-23 19:29:06 UTC  

Yeah

2018-05-23 19:29:24 UTC  

this really does open up some legality questions

2018-05-23 19:29:38 UTC  

if twitter is a public forum, even if its only on Trumps tweets

2018-05-23 19:29:51 UTC  

how much control do they have of it?

2018-05-23 19:30:02 UTC  

legally speaking

2018-05-23 19:30:13 UTC  

if its a public forum then doesnt even have the right to assembly

2018-05-23 19:30:29 UTC  

so banning anyone is unconstitutional

2018-05-23 19:30:42 UTC  

reading all the public form clauses, they all say the government cannot impose limits

2018-05-23 19:32:08 UTC  

open forum: "The government can normally impose only content-neutral time, place, and manner restrictions on speech in a public forum."

limited forum: "he government can limit access to certain types of speakers in a limited public forum, or limit the use of such facilities for certain subjects."

III. closed forum: "governmental restrictions on access to a nonpublic forum will be upheld as long as they are reasonable and not based on a desire to suppress a particular viewpoint."

2018-05-23 19:32:20 UTC  

once again, twitter is not the government, trump is the government

2018-05-23 19:32:47 UTC  

so twitter, at least the way i read this, is exempt from public forum rulings. but trump is not.

2018-05-23 19:33:09 UTC  

i.e., twitter can block peoples access, but trump cannot block peoples access

2018-05-23 19:35:45 UTC  

But let's say someone engages with a trump tweet, then later gets banned for a different reason, thus removing their engagement with Trump.. wonder what the thought would be on that?

2018-05-23 19:36:32 UTC  

Would this apply to all public officials?

2018-05-23 19:36:43 UTC  

I think it would have to

2018-05-23 19:37:08 UTC  

Wonder if Obama ever blocked someone before.

2018-05-23 19:37:26 UTC  

Feel like a bunch of instances of it happening might come up.

2018-05-23 19:37:44 UTC  

did obama tweet as his private account or always potus44?

2018-05-23 19:38:01 UTC  

Not sure.

2018-05-23 19:54:10 UTC  

or rather

2018-05-23 19:54:20 UTC  

Going to create a site where the public can rate the core truth of any article & track the credibility score over time of each journalist, editor & publication. Thinking of calling it Pravda …

2018-05-23 19:54:22 UTC  

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2018-05-23 19:54:47 UTC  

Hmm. I think it's a great idea but curious how it would work.

2018-05-23 19:54:53 UTC  

Easily abused.

2018-05-23 19:55:11 UTC  

or you know anti-bullying doxxing