Message from @Stander
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People don't join the army to fight for their own countrys goal
Ill wait
@Archatton i ain't a centrist, i'm just saying that the moral foundation of "government supported is good, all else is evil" is too weak to support a society
@Solid Snake Plissken Because killing them isn't a punishment. Making them rot in prison for the rest of their lives is
Armies exist to kill whoever the fuck mess with the state
Or themselves
there should be a greater and more clear moral foundation
Exactly
A country with no military is a weak country
@bink we say in ma country that the State has the monopole of violence.
GG @Archatton, you just advanced to level 4!
How is babysitting them for 50 years and paying for there food, sgwlter ,and medical bills a punishment?
You are full of poop
Go sit on a toilet
bro
by that logic what could the slaves have been complaining about
@Solid Snake Plissken 😏 <:sweet:333043107572744205>
In effects, there children don't need any help and becomes richer than parents who needed help
they were sheltered and fed <:peepok:583236153852035072>
In american situation, once ya poor, ya stay poor until death
Ya were born in poor family. Ya stay poor.
Ya die poor
We have treaties to limit violences and "make war less deadly"
@Solid Snake Plissken Ever tried prison? It's a monotonous life where you're stripped of most of your rights as a human being and you are cutoff from the outside world and your only form of social interaction is people who are worse than you
@Archatton people can progress through dumb chance or through connections, in 99% of these cases these connections are made by the time of one's birth or soon after
But America doesn't give a single fuck about war rules
@bink yeah but the proportion of people having this luck is strangely exremely low in the US compared to other western countries
I can't speak for other western countries, but I'd be surprised if it is much different there.
Boo I went to a vipasinna neditation course. I know what it is like to not talk or see anyone for a month. 30 days. No talking. No looking someone in the eye. No snoking. No cellphones. No nothing. Just meditation. Sleep. And eat. I had it worse than a prisoner and it was paradise
Well
The prime minister here was born in a poor family, his sister was kill during an American 'visit' to the village
I know he blocked me, but can someone bring up the fucking social problems prison would bring?
You are a fool if you think not playing on your phone outside is a punishment
Being with the other prisoners would be terrible
Yes
@Solid Snake Plissken meditation? Do you honestly believe that other human beings who strive on social contact would be using their prison sentence as a fucking yoga class?
You stay in a room with people who did shit like homicide, rape, assault
That's some fucked up shit staying in a room with a male rapist who fucking rapes males
I literally heard of many convicts begging for their court case to be reopened just so that they could get a death sentence