@bink dat's a very centrist opinion, since it's the current doctrine in every country

<a:PepePopcorn:591251102733959170>

Give me 1 reason why a convicted rapust should live

People don't join the army to fight for their own countrys goal

Ill wait

@Archatton i ain't a centrist, i'm just saying that the moral foundation of "government supported is good, all else is evil" is too weak to support a society

@Solid Snake Plissken Because killing them isn't a punishment. Making them rot in prison for the rest of their lives is

Armies exist to kill whoever the fuck mess with the state

Or themselves

there should be a greater and more clear moral foundation

@Stander or to fuck with other states

Exactly

A country with no military is a weak country

@bink we say in ma country that the State has the monopole of violence.

GG @Archatton, you just advanced to level 4!

How is babysitting them for 50 years and paying for there food, sgwlter ,and medical bills a punishment?

You are full of poop

Go sit on a toilet

bro

by that logic what could the slaves have been complaining about

@Solid Snake Plissken 😏 <:sweet:333043107572744205>
In effects, there children don't need any help and becomes richer than parents who needed help

they were sheltered and fed <:peepok:583236153852035072>

In american situation, once ya poor, ya stay poor until death

Punishing your troops is A OK but the other side however

Ya were born in poor family. Ya stay poor.

Ya die poor

We have treaties to limit violences and "make war less deadly"

@Solid Snake Plissken Ever tried prison? It's a monotonous life where you're stripped of most of your rights as a human being and you are cutoff from the outside world and your only form of social interaction is people who are worse than you

@Archatton people can progress through dumb chance or through connections, in 99% of these cases these connections are made by the time of one's birth or soon after

But America doesn't give a single fuck about war rules

@bink yeah but the proportion of people having this luck is strangely exremely low in the US compared to other western countries

I can't speak for other western countries, but I'd be surprised if it is much different there.

Boo I went to a vipasinna neditation course. I know what it is like to not talk or see anyone for a month. 30 days. No talking. No looking someone in the eye. No snoking. No cellphones. No nothing. Just meditation. Sleep. And eat. I had it worse than a prisoner and it was paradise

Well

The prime minister here was born in a poor family, his sister was kill during an American 'visit' to the village

I know he blocked me, but can someone bring up the fucking social problems prison would bring?

You are a fool if you think not playing on your phone outside is a punishment

Being with the other prisoners would be terrible

@bink it's studied and it's called social mobility ^^

Yes

@Solid Snake Plissken meditation? Do you honestly believe that other human beings who strive on social contact would be using their prison sentence as a fucking yoga class?