Message from @ZetaBlues

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2018-05-24 16:47:58 UTC  

tbh I dont recall ever hearing any white person actually use it IRL

2018-05-24 16:48:20 UTC  

Frankly, I believe we should be allowed to fuck up verbally

2018-05-24 16:48:38 UTC  

I call most people on the internet 'he'

2018-05-24 16:48:59 UTC  

Sex neutral, of course. As it was originally intended

2018-05-24 16:49:38 UTC  

what happens if youre from another country, but call a Canadian trans woman "he"? :/

2018-05-24 16:50:14 UTC  

Human rights coalition can't do jack

2018-05-24 16:50:33 UTC  

They have no jurisdiction in their own country, let alone others

2018-05-24 16:50:51 UTC  

I havent actually read C-16... is it specifically pronouns... or is it.. if you call a muslim a christian as well

2018-05-24 16:51:37 UTC  

It's weird

2018-05-24 16:51:51 UTC  

But the problem wasn't pronouns in itself

2018-05-24 16:52:00 UTC  

It was gender identity and gender expression

2018-05-24 16:52:09 UTC  

Which are both vague terms

2018-05-24 16:53:04 UTC  

Say you get into a fender bender with a xer and don't acknoeledge xir's pronouns because they're very feminine.

2018-05-24 16:53:25 UTC  

You're now committing a felony and have to confront a human rights tribunal

2018-05-24 16:53:55 UTC  

Here's the problem though. You can't claim ignorance.

2018-05-24 16:54:29 UTC  

sounds like another "the court decides what you meant"

2018-05-24 16:54:43 UTC  

Yeah. Which is compelled speech.

2018-05-24 16:54:44 UTC  

seems to be a trend on that

2018-05-24 16:54:55 UTC  

And it's a slippery slope

2018-05-24 16:55:14 UTC  

He was concerned about the slippery slope

2018-05-24 16:55:34 UTC  

But people misunderstood what he meant saying he refused to acknowledge pronouns

2018-05-24 16:57:11 UTC  

i like how people went "it only changed like these 3 things. it only added it in like 3 places" and its just like "well yeah.... WHICH CHANGES THE REST OF THAT LAW ENTIRELY"

2018-05-24 16:57:16 UTC  

well way back in the video that went viral and put him on the map - someone asked him "would you use my pronoun" and he replied something along the lines of "that may not help you"

2018-05-24 16:58:03 UTC  

he has been on record saying that in one on one conversation, and not in the public sphere, he would use the pronoun if you asked

2018-05-24 16:58:18 UTC  

his problem was not having the option not to

2018-05-24 16:58:29 UTC  

While inaccurate, that doesn't mean he won't use pronouns. He very well might. The problem is he won't do it if forced by the hand of the law

2018-05-24 16:58:36 UTC  

its like being pro-choice but still thinking abortion is horrible.

2018-05-24 17:12:41 UTC  

assumpingtalking about JBP

2018-05-24 17:12:47 UTC  

he also says it depends on the context

2018-05-24 17:12:57 UTC  

if you're asking him to use it to further your agenda, he wont do that

2018-05-24 17:13:50 UTC  

He goes in to pretty good detail during the end of the Maajid Nawaz interview

2018-05-24 17:13:55 UTC  

of what he would and wouldn't do

2018-05-24 17:14:12 UTC  

He's done it before that, too.

2018-05-24 17:14:17 UTC  

yup

2018-05-24 17:14:28 UTC  

that's just the most recent one he spoke about it that I know of

2018-05-24 17:15:04 UTC  

Also Re: Shaun King, he goes after an innocent officer only to come out and say he's now a victim.

2018-05-24 17:15:17 UTC  
2018-05-24 17:15:21 UTC  

The Cathy Newman interview was actually way better than he says it is

2018-05-24 17:15:38 UTC  

I guess Ill just pay

2018-05-24 17:15:43 UTC  

extortion

2018-05-24 17:16:08 UTC  

This is why we Yanks dropped tea into the ocean.