Message from @Grenade123

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2018-05-25 16:07:36 UTC  

yeah it would be on the onus of the jury, not the press

2018-05-25 16:07:42 UTC  

imo

2018-05-25 16:08:04 UTC  

well, this may be why they don't want the press reporting the results until the end of the trail

2018-05-25 16:08:14 UTC  

that wouldn't stand here

2018-05-25 16:08:31 UTC  

freedom of the press would apply here I would think

2018-05-25 16:08:47 UTC  

since part of the trail isn't happening until September, you'd basically need to jail the jury if the media was allowed to report on it

2018-05-25 16:09:25 UTC  

"you have been chosen for jury duty, but because your part of the trail doesn't happen until september, and the media can report the results, we need to lock you away so noone can talk to you"

2018-05-25 16:09:55 UTC  

i think there is a slight difference between not being allowed to report it ever, and needing to wait until all results are in

2018-05-25 16:10:07 UTC  

I don't think there is

2018-05-25 16:10:41 UTC  

there's no responsibility, really, for the press NOT to report on it as soon as it knows. at least here in the US

2018-05-25 16:10:52 UTC  

there is no NDA, no security clearance

2018-05-25 16:10:54 UTC  

etc

2018-05-25 16:11:13 UTC  

so, you propose the media can report on the findings, then, because you can't keep a jury that isolated for a year, let off everyone in the September trail because there is no unbiased jury?

2018-05-25 16:11:14 UTC  

that would be speech suppression by the goverment.. basically

2018-05-25 16:11:37 UTC  

or do we detain the jury all year

2018-05-25 16:11:44 UTC  

no, i would not fucking have a trial so far out if the information leaking could affect the outcome

2018-05-25 16:12:05 UTC  

well true

2018-05-25 16:12:40 UTC  

but some fuckwad made that choice (or maybe they are too busy putting people on trail for hate speech to do it any sooner), so now what?

2018-05-25 16:13:01 UTC  

This is basically victim blaming

2018-05-25 16:13:03 UTC  

btw

2018-05-25 16:13:19 UTC  

i....wut

2018-05-25 16:13:22 UTC  

oh you're the victim of knowledge and you shared it, you goto jail

2018-05-25 16:13:41 UTC  

because we can't be sensible in our court proceedings

2018-05-25 16:13:55 UTC  

not victim of knowledge, but you get what I'm saying

2018-05-25 16:14:07 UTC  

are you a leftist?

2018-05-25 16:14:08 UTC  

anyway, I think it's BS in either case

2018-05-25 16:14:14 UTC  

"you did an action, but you are the victim"

2018-05-25 16:14:14 UTC  

haha no

2018-05-25 16:14:26 UTC  

>you shared it

that is an action

2018-05-25 16:14:43 UTC  

it would be victim blaming if you jailed the jury for hearing it

2018-05-25 16:14:44 UTC  

an action I don't deem illegal...

2018-05-25 16:15:02 UTC  

sharing information, in this case, isn't illegal..

2018-05-25 16:15:31 UTC  

i.e. reporting on the trial, possbily the verdict.. that wouldn't be illegal here, regardless

2018-05-25 16:15:40 UTC  

hence why the jury is usually instructed to not watch the media

2018-05-25 16:16:09 UTC  

so you can't arrest media for that, and TR is media in this case.. so our first amendment should protect what he was doing

2018-05-25 16:16:47 UTC  

well in this case, not watch the media (for a year), talk to family (for a year), talk to colleagues (for a year). Since we are here, because some fuckwad (the person who should really be sent to jail) split this up across a year. What are the options?

2018-05-25 16:17:02 UTC  

also, this is in the UK

2018-05-25 16:17:06 UTC  

not supressing the media is not an option

2018-05-25 16:17:08 UTC  

again I know this

2018-05-25 16:17:16 UTC  

I'm talking about what would happen here and why I think it's wrong

2018-05-25 16:17:21 UTC  

i agree, this shit really wouldn't fly here