Message from @LotheronPrime

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2018-05-25 15:44:32 UTC  

🤔

2018-05-25 15:44:49 UTC  

you know that typical drug picture after a big bust

2018-05-25 15:45:09 UTC  

do they just have a thumb drive on the table for virtual money?

2018-05-25 15:46:53 UTC  

i dunno, they had a fallout computer for that DNC hack

2018-05-25 15:47:31 UTC  

it must be some government job to set the table

2018-05-25 15:53:07 UTC  

that video before didnt show the arrest

2018-05-25 15:53:21 UTC  
2018-05-25 16:01:21 UTC  

correct me if i am wrong, but at the start he said there is 3 parts to this trial. 3 groups because there are so many people on trail. Because the results could, i assume, make people bias in the following trails, you cannot report on the verdicts (according to tommy in the other video). Watching this here, he is about to report the results of this trail. he said he knows its over, and that he is just waiting for the verdicts. If the same thing that covers the first trail covers the second, then technically they are not wrong that he is breaking the law, or about to attempt to. Still seems ridiculous, but if the ruling over the first part of the trail applies to all parts of the trail, then he KNEW this was probably coming, and then their claim he was breaching the peace wouldn't be wrong. Because he would be trying to start shit, and cause problems.

2018-05-25 16:03:33 UTC  

I dont think he will survive the 13months he will now be in prison for

2018-05-25 16:04:07 UTC  

now, i don't know the UK, but in the US we do trail by jury and the jury is supposed to be unbais. Should they be forced to split up a trial into several parts because of the number of people, then reporting on the results before all people have their trail, could turn any and all jury's bias, which would end up denying peoples rights to a fair trail, and result, most likely, in everyone else left to be tried getting off on a mistrial

2018-05-25 16:05:35 UTC  

when I was on jury duty for isleworth court we were told we were not allowed to view any social media or anything or talk about it outisde the court

2018-05-25 16:07:34 UTC  

exactly

2018-05-25 16:07:36 UTC  

yeah it would be on the onus of the jury, not the press

2018-05-25 16:07:42 UTC  

imo

2018-05-25 16:08:04 UTC  

well, this may be why they don't want the press reporting the results until the end of the trail

2018-05-25 16:08:14 UTC  

that wouldn't stand here

2018-05-25 16:08:31 UTC  

freedom of the press would apply here I would think

2018-05-25 16:08:47 UTC  

since part of the trail isn't happening until September, you'd basically need to jail the jury if the media was allowed to report on it

2018-05-25 16:09:25 UTC  

"you have been chosen for jury duty, but because your part of the trail doesn't happen until september, and the media can report the results, we need to lock you away so noone can talk to you"

2018-05-25 16:09:55 UTC  

i think there is a slight difference between not being allowed to report it ever, and needing to wait until all results are in

2018-05-25 16:10:07 UTC  

I don't think there is

2018-05-25 16:10:41 UTC  

there's no responsibility, really, for the press NOT to report on it as soon as it knows. at least here in the US

2018-05-25 16:10:52 UTC  

there is no NDA, no security clearance

2018-05-25 16:10:54 UTC  

etc

2018-05-25 16:11:13 UTC  

so, you propose the media can report on the findings, then, because you can't keep a jury that isolated for a year, let off everyone in the September trail because there is no unbiased jury?

2018-05-25 16:11:14 UTC  

that would be speech suppression by the goverment.. basically

2018-05-25 16:11:37 UTC  

or do we detain the jury all year

2018-05-25 16:11:44 UTC  

no, i would not fucking have a trial so far out if the information leaking could affect the outcome

2018-05-25 16:12:05 UTC  

well true

2018-05-25 16:12:40 UTC  

but some fuckwad made that choice (or maybe they are too busy putting people on trail for hate speech to do it any sooner), so now what?

2018-05-25 16:13:01 UTC  

This is basically victim blaming

2018-05-25 16:13:03 UTC  

btw

2018-05-25 16:13:19 UTC  

i....wut

2018-05-25 16:13:22 UTC  

oh you're the victim of knowledge and you shared it, you goto jail

2018-05-25 16:13:41 UTC  

because we can't be sensible in our court proceedings

2018-05-25 16:13:55 UTC  

not victim of knowledge, but you get what I'm saying

2018-05-25 16:14:07 UTC  

are you a leftist?

2018-05-25 16:14:08 UTC  

anyway, I think it's BS in either case

2018-05-25 16:14:14 UTC  

"you did an action, but you are the victim"

2018-05-25 16:14:14 UTC  

haha no

2018-05-25 16:14:26 UTC  

>you shared it

that is an action