The only way to truly defeat someone is to sleep with their mother

Simple as

hehe, ya know jimbo, in 2005 a declassified internal NSA study revealed that there was not a single north vietnamese vessel present during the gulf of tonkin incident! that false flag cost 58,315 american lives, not to mention the other 303,644 wounded! now aint that just quackin crazy?

so what happened

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident

*The Gulf of Tonkin incident (Vietnamese: Sự kiện Vịnh Bắc Bộ), also known as the USS Maddox incident, was an international confrontation that led to the United States engaging more directly in the Vietnam War. It involved one real and one falsely claimed confrontation between ships of North Vietnam and the United States in the waters of the Gulf of Tonkin. The original American report blamed North Vietnam for both incidents, but the Pentagon Papers, the memoirs of Robert McNamara, and NSA publications from 2005, proved material misrepresentation by the US government to justify a war against Vietnam.*

it orders the "one real" before the "falsely claimed" one to give a more favorable light.

the real one was a direct result of the fabricated one.

wait

thats another thing

nevermind

there was still evidence they were responsible

there was also contradictory evidence that was suppressed

the "real one" is when a US ship entered north vietnamese waters

north vietnamese ships then tailed the ship

they fired three "warning missiles." north Vietnamese retaliated with not-warning missiles.

keep calm and napalm vietnam

but its not like the govornment would ever do this again

and you know

lie about major sociopolitical decisions right?

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Gulf of Tonkin wasn't first time either, Remember the Maine!

war of 1812 was started over trumped up BS too.
```War. War Never Changes.```

Vietnam war can't be understood without understanding Britain's role in instigating trouble for the US, with Sir Robert Thompson as the primary instrument

Britain set up the Japan versus US clash in WWII as well, way back in the 1920s with the Washington naval conference and the japanese getting the german islands as prizes, all part of their strategy of "ally with #3 against #2"

the u.s. should be able to get in any war it wants to

simple as

monroe doctrine 2.0

Well, let's take that at face value. DEfine, "the US"? THe public? The elites? The operates working outside legal authority?

Public was against almost all these disasters until we were stuck, which was the whole point of these 'incidents' like Tonkin

Kennedy+MacArthur were trying to keep Vietnam from heating up, despite Kennedy's earlier mistakes trusting the CIA with regards to "South" vietnam, which was a fiction

Kennedy was clearly killed by a conspiracy with the goal of getting the US deeper into manufactured Vietnam conflict, which faction is "The US" in that scenario?

the savages of the world shall bend the knee

Keep in mind Vietnam asked us for help numerous times and even offered to become a commonwealth of the US, like Puerto Ricon and Guam. Ho Chi Minh quoted Thomas Jefferson in the Vietnamese Declaration of Independence, etc. Bringing these facts up is probably what got MLK, Jr Killed

If you've never heard MLK, jr speech on Vietnam, it's probably best piece of American Oratory

mlk was a terrorist

sure he was