Message from @Othman

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2019-12-07 14:07:07 UTC  

h'm

2019-12-07 14:07:18 UTC  

when you talk about islam being a religion of peace

2019-12-07 14:07:30 UTC  

what about 520,00-703,000 christians that live in Syria?

2019-12-07 14:07:33 UTC  

do you mean the very religious texts or the followers of the religion?

2019-12-07 14:07:35 UTC  

What about them Othman?

2019-12-07 14:07:44 UTC  

@quinnn The religious texts

2019-12-07 14:07:45 UTC  

What about the thousands of christians and jews that live in my country (Kuwait)?

2019-12-07 14:07:51 UTC  

What about them?

2019-12-07 14:08:01 UTC  

they aren't being prosecuted

2019-12-07 14:08:04 UTC  

Yes they are

2019-12-07 14:08:13 UTC  

mate my dad hired christian peope to do some construction work in our house

2019-12-07 14:08:22 UTC  

those christian construction workers have been living in kuwait for years

2019-12-07 14:08:36 UTC  

I meet and talk to christians almost everyday here in Kuwait

2019-12-07 14:08:41 UTC  

there are christian teachers in my school

2019-12-07 14:08:53 UTC  

"Article 2 of the Constitution of Kuwait states Islam is the state religion and that Sharia (Islamic Law) shall be a main source of legislation, and as a consequence proselytization of Muslims by non-Muslims is illegal."

2019-12-07 14:09:49 UTC  

proselytization: To attempt to convert someone to one's own religious faith.

2019-12-07 14:09:57 UTC  

that is the country's law mate

2019-12-07 14:10:07 UTC  

that has nothing to do with religion

2019-12-07 14:10:33 UTC  

they aren't forcing anyone to live here, if you want to proselytization go to another country

2019-12-07 14:10:51 UTC  

the Kuwaiti people own the land of Kuwait so they can put their own laws.

2019-12-07 14:11:01 UTC  

it seems to me that you don't even understand what "Sharia law" is

2019-12-07 14:11:15 UTC  

If you are not allowed to convert people to other religions, what does that imply?

2019-12-07 14:11:24 UTC  

it's more of a lifestyle, more of a way of connecting to god, it's not much of a "law"

2019-12-07 14:11:46 UTC  

@Deleted User it implies that the law of the country does not allow people to convert others out of Islam

2019-12-07 14:12:27 UTC  

Yes, and because you are not allowed to convert others out of Islam, it implies that there is a country and a culture that does not want it's own people to convert from Islam

2019-12-07 14:12:39 UTC  

Therefore

2019-12-07 14:12:45 UTC  

yes, and what is wrong with that exactly?

2019-12-07 14:12:45 UTC  

Christians would naturally be seen as a threat

2019-12-07 14:13:34 UTC  

it's not that we see christians as a threat, it's that we know, not think, we know Islam is the right religion and it would be an un-wise decision to convert people out of it

2019-12-07 14:13:39 UTC  

There is nothing wrong with that, you just can't claim that christians are not persecuted against

2019-12-07 14:13:39 UTC  

now I personally disagree with that law

2019-12-07 14:13:53 UTC  

I think people should be allowed to proselytization to any religion.

2019-12-07 14:14:01 UTC  

I am a full supporter of free speech

2019-12-07 14:14:15 UTC  

but yes I can claim that christians are not persecuted against

2019-12-07 14:14:25 UTC  

because christians aren't being persecuted against

2019-12-07 14:14:39 UTC  

the one's that are being persecuted are the one's who commit proselytization

2019-12-07 14:15:17 UTC  

Okay, so you believe that people who try to convert others to Christianity/Judaism are being persecuted

2019-12-07 14:15:33 UTC  

But you don't believe that people who are Christians/Jewish themselves do not have persecution against them?

2019-12-07 14:15:41 UTC  

I'm not even talking about persecution in the lawful sense

2019-12-07 14:15:45 UTC  

I am talking in the cultural sense

2019-12-07 14:16:02 UTC  

Cause it is pretty obvious that middle eastern muslims do not have positive attitudes towards religious minorities