Message from @Ivanfr
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or just a "the system needs a change" way?
5 star is definitely the later
(by liberal I just mean less government)
Yeah 5 star is not that
They want socialist policies
so left-liberal
I think one of those is the state guaranteed income meme
That actualy was in their coalition treaty
I was againt universal income at first... but recently I changed my mind
wut
u gotta be kiddin
so at first I was like... all that will do is recent what zero mean.. so like.. if everyone gets $400 and theres no welfare... eventually $400 will be the new zero - as inflation skyrockets
😔
I wish i was kidding lol
which will be terrible for the poor... BUT... as a country it will be able to import good very cheaply - and the companies within the country will make huge profits
universal basic income has to come from some place
it would come from people that actually work
so basically... universal income will be reeeeally bad for the poor... but for everyone else who works it will be great!
then those ppl would just go to other country
Dozens of people in Italy turned up at job centres to demand the guaranteed minimum income promised by the Five Star Movement – despite the fact that the party is not even in government yet.
The anti-establishment party’s campaign promise of a minimum monthly salary of €780 (£695) was credited by many analysts as one of the reasons it achieved such a resounding victory in southern Italy, where youth unemployment can exceed 50 per cent.
why would people move to another country?
because in order to give free money to lazy slobs u gotta heavily tax useful ppl
at the moment you are paying for welfare and getting nothing... with universal income you still pay the same... but you get some back
and they wont like it
no u dont pay the same
only some ppl are in welfare
with universal basic income it would be A LOT of ppl
im against welfare anyway
yeah... but this is what they are saying... they wont increase the welfare budget
theyll get rid of all the admin involved and pay out to everyone an average
Its a very bad idea
prob just a lie to get the poor ppl to vote for them
take the US for example... their medicare budget per capita is $8508 per person.... but in the UK theres no admin... so its only $3500 per capita and everyone gets healthcare
Well in any case italy has economic rules in their constitution
And the plans broke those
so its actually cheaper
and runs more smoothly
On which ground president refused to apoint the minister and started the crisis
do u actually like the idea of free money?