The legal procedure of separating two lives.

It's akin to contract law

It used to be much simpler, men get everything minus what the woman needs to live

You're stumbling across a very important detail

You've tripped across it multiple times in this

Then there was some case which bascially allowed women to be entitled to a portion of the wealth of the man, outside ofwhat they needed

You are not required to get married* (excepting common law,which generally only applies to people presenting as Mr. And Mrs. Anyway)

Absolutely nothing stops you from keeping a girlfriend of 10 years and breaking up whenever.

so then why is marriage even needed?

Why are contracts needed?

why do we need to lump a bunch of different stuff that are not necessarily related under 1 contract?

Because they're not

Unrelated I mean

but they are. who is legally part of my family and can make decisions on my behalf is unrelated to who is necessarily living with me, is unrelated to who it might make sense (in the spirit of the idea) for me to file taxes jointly with and unrelated to who i might have a kid with.

they can all overlap

but they don't always overlap

Who you live with DOES matter when it comes to filing taxes.

And that consent to marriage matters too

Otherwise, I could've been taxed harder when I lived in DC with someone that made around 200,000 a year.

Those taxes would've KILLED me.

Yeah I assume living together is probably the main reason to cofile taxes

Specifically, joint finances

yeah

Marriage blurs and mixes property rights, finances, offers fifth amendment protection to spouses

It's so deeply ingrained,trivializing it to the point grenade seems to want to would be seriously destabilizing.

Any recommendations on that? How is a spouse determined in legal process, in regards to 5th amendment protection?

hmmm, can you remind me how the 5th amendment relates to marriage?

Is it like, evidence found during investigation of your spouse can't be used to accuse you of a crime?

Wait, that's the 4th...

Sets out rules for indictment by grand jury and eminent domain, protects the right to due process, and prohibits self-incrimination and double jeopardy.

thats the 5th

Yeah

4th is unreasonable search and seizures, search warrants and probable cause

A spouse may not be subpoenaed by Court. The spouse is protected by the same 5th Amendment rights as the accused.

A wife is not required to testify against their husband although they may

Ah, okay

It's one of the tenant concepts of marriage, that it's a shared life.

@RyeNorth who said i wanted all the legal options completely gone? i said i didn't want them all lumped together under such a messy piece of crap that does nothing but cause more problems at every turn and tied to a word that has religious connotations. Split it all up into things that need to be applied for and granted separately based off of criteria that make sense for each one.

why should a spouse who only knew the guy for 2 years, married for 1, get 5th amendment protection vs the live in girlfriend of 5 years who hasn't reached common law yet doesn't?

This whole debate has been us saying it should no longer be tied to religious connotations

We got calling ground on that point.