Message from @RyeNorth

Discord ID: 453261306993180675


2018-06-04 18:08:21 UTC  

Do you think the government,in it's duties,should include essential tabloid details of everyone's love lifes?

2018-06-04 18:09:09 UTC  

I really dont want the government to know who im in love with no

2018-06-04 18:09:11 UTC  

also @RyeNorth outside perhaps mandated waiting periods, there really is nothing stopping someone from getting married then divorced, then remarried year after year. So your previous point about declaring yourself married or not year after year is already a reality

2018-06-04 18:09:30 UTC  

and no, it should not CARE about my love life until i ask if for something

2018-06-04 18:09:47 UTC  

The legal procedure of separating two lives.

2018-06-04 18:10:05 UTC  

It's akin to contract law

2018-06-04 18:10:39 UTC  

It used to be much simpler, men get everything minus what the woman needs to live

2018-06-04 18:10:50 UTC  

You're stumbling across a very important detail

2018-06-04 18:11:06 UTC  

You've tripped across it multiple times in this

2018-06-04 18:12:13 UTC  

Then there was some case which bascially allowed women to be entitled to a portion of the wealth of the man, outside ofwhat they needed

2018-06-04 18:12:21 UTC  

You are not required to get married* (excepting common law,which generally only applies to people presenting as Mr. And Mrs. Anyway)

2018-06-04 18:13:29 UTC  

Absolutely nothing stops you from keeping a girlfriend of 10 years and breaking up whenever.

2018-06-04 18:13:44 UTC  

so then why is marriage even needed?

2018-06-04 18:14:23 UTC  

Why are contracts needed?

2018-06-04 18:14:35 UTC  

why do we need to lump a bunch of different stuff that are not necessarily related under 1 contract?

2018-06-04 18:14:57 UTC  

Because they're not

2018-06-04 18:15:07 UTC  

Unrelated I mean

2018-06-04 18:17:08 UTC  

but they are. who is legally part of my family and can make decisions on my behalf is unrelated to who is necessarily living with me, is unrelated to who it might make sense (in the spirit of the idea) for me to file taxes jointly with and unrelated to who i might have a kid with.

2018-06-04 18:17:48 UTC  

they can all overlap

2018-06-04 18:18:07 UTC  

but they don't always overlap

2018-06-04 18:18:36 UTC  

Who you live with DOES matter when it comes to filing taxes.

2018-06-04 18:19:03 UTC  

And that consent to marriage matters too

2018-06-04 18:19:43 UTC  

Otherwise, I could've been taxed harder when I lived in DC with someone that made around 200,000 a year.

2018-06-04 18:19:56 UTC  

Those taxes would've KILLED me.

2018-06-04 18:20:20 UTC  

Yeah I assume living together is probably the main reason to cofile taxes

2018-06-04 18:20:45 UTC  

Specifically, joint finances

2018-06-04 18:21:18 UTC  

yeah

2018-06-04 18:22:09 UTC  

Marriage blurs and mixes property rights, finances, offers fifth amendment protection to spouses

2018-06-04 18:23:23 UTC  

It's so deeply ingrained,trivializing it to the point grenade seems to want to would be seriously destabilizing.

2018-06-04 18:31:42 UTC  

Any recommendations on that? How is a spouse determined in legal process, in regards to 5th amendment protection?

2018-06-04 18:32:27 UTC  

hmmm, can you remind me how the 5th amendment relates to marriage?

2018-06-04 18:34:22 UTC  

Is it like, evidence found during investigation of your spouse can't be used to accuse you of a crime?

2018-06-04 18:35:17 UTC  

Wait, that's the 4th...

2018-06-04 18:35:50 UTC  

Sets out rules for indictment by grand jury and eminent domain, protects the right to due process, and prohibits self-incrimination and double jeopardy.

2018-06-04 18:36:02 UTC  

thats the 5th

2018-06-04 18:36:07 UTC  

Yeah

2018-06-04 18:36:22 UTC  

4th is unreasonable search and seizures, search warrants and probable cause

2018-06-04 18:37:08 UTC  

A spouse may not be subpoenaed by Court. The spouse is protected by the same 5th Amendment rights as the accused.

2018-06-04 18:37:22 UTC  

A wife is not required to testify against their husband although they may

2018-06-04 18:37:37 UTC  

Ah, okay

2018-06-04 18:38:19 UTC  

It's one of the tenant concepts of marriage, that it's a shared life.