Message from @Grenade123
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because people will throw a fucking fit
AG42 just go into any group of people and say "Intelligence"
@AwesomeGuy42 the only way we could do that, is majorly unethical. Regardless of political reasons
how is it unethical?
we are talking like kids being treated like lab rats level
Mmhmm
to get true accurate results
it is not unethical
do you want to know what is unethical? my province stopping IQ tests in the schools because idiots feel bad about it
because you need to remove all aspects of environmental variable
so now you cant get the high IQ kids and remove them from the plebs schools
and their potential is destroyed
that is unethical
@Ivanfr to study the genetic component is unethical.
I dont think it is
how do you plan to study that? and remove all environmental variables?
But yeah IQ tests are primarily a measurement of pattern recognition
Which is a great skill
But it isn't a predestination for success
how do you get a genetic control subject?
stats with big groups of individuals
that live naturally
Like, if we measured intelligence on a person's memory
one of the big issues is the possibility of a correlation between socioeconomic status and IQ
My 142 wouldn't mean shit.
but memory is not intelligence
because that implies a possibility of a correlation between *race* and IQ
Mmhmm
why would anyone think memory is intelligence lol
and if you find a correlation between race and IQ
Mmhmm
people will lose their fucking minds
Is like saying the CPU is now a hard disk
nonsense
@AwesomeGuy42 we already have that correlation
alright well let me rephrase
imagine
if we found a causation
There's a correlation. I'm not denying that.
It's a shame that it is prohibited to hire on the basis of IQ
that's why research into hereditary IQ will never be a thing
Observational studies can't draw cause-effect relationships Ivan
You need an experiment to do that
According to the field of statistics anyway
Hence, bringing up rhe ethics of studying that kind of thing