Message from @Dr.Wol

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2018-06-11 19:23:12 UTC  

No farmlands. Apparently it wasn't normie compatible so extra bits are being added to explain some history

2018-06-11 19:25:18 UTC  

By the time it's released there will be no South Africa, so I guess the added history is kind of a good idea lol

2018-06-11 19:29:53 UTC  

@Blackhawk342 if I had a choice in ISP, probably not long. Unfortunately this is the real hurdle that even made net neutrality really any kind of potential issue. You have like 1 or 2 options for ISPs in a lot of places if you don't want to deal with sat internet.

2018-06-11 19:33:33 UTC  

I dont thinkt hat would have changed with NN

2018-06-11 19:33:40 UTC  

infrastructure costs money

2018-06-11 19:34:10 UTC  

and any goverment subsidies by the likes of ATT have been squandered to put infrastructure in rural places, so I dont' trust it anyway

2018-06-11 19:35:00 UTC  

It’s not just money, the regulatory hurdles required to start your own ISP are so intense that even Google is having problems expanding Google Fiber

2018-06-11 19:35:52 UTC  

meh alot of that is ATT being assholes

2018-06-11 19:35:56 UTC  

but I understand it

2018-06-11 19:36:02 UTC  

or other ocmpanies

2018-06-11 19:36:19 UTC  

basically their shit is working on the poles and they dont want some random person f'n with it

2018-06-11 19:37:48 UTC  

so yes they're being assholes but they are protecting their own stuff at the same time, not that I agree with it but understand it...

2018-06-11 19:38:41 UTC  

That is one problem, though from what I know Google runs their own lines (and often does a poor job)

2018-06-11 19:40:07 UTC  

I have a buddy who’s an ATT tech, he says Google hires local contractors who often do shady shit like run lines through the road only inches deep and just leave it temporarily filled in

2018-06-11 19:41:01 UTC  

When Australia wins the space race y'all can use our satellite internet

2018-06-11 19:41:17 UTC  

NN didn't solve anything really

2018-06-11 19:41:29 UTC  

outside of making everything probably slower

2018-06-11 19:41:41 UTC  

because video steaming and stuff takes up a LOT of bandwidth

2018-06-11 19:42:05 UTC  

I can’t wait to purchase the chat package that includes discord

2018-06-11 19:44:49 UTC  

It worked the opposite here, ISPs would offer freebies to say Facebook to outbid for customers, everything else is the same price

2018-06-11 19:46:28 UTC  

its a bit of an iffy thing,

WITH NN, theres no need to compete since theres no new customer base, cuz everyone is required to get the same package, so price is the only thing that matters,
And to invest into making new internet across US might not give desirable returns

2018-06-11 19:46:55 UTC  

So you´re stuck with shitty internet since no company bothers being better, theres no competition

2018-06-11 19:47:34 UTC  

without NN, you CAN get like bad package deals, and then a new company can come in and offer universal internet for a good price, and steal the market again

2018-06-11 19:48:20 UTC  

also, Americans should be aware NN didn´t exist for them before 2015
So how bad was it really? 😛

2018-06-11 19:48:43 UTC  

Customer service, lock in scam contracts (join us for free Facebook and Netflix), and general connection speed/reliability.
This is what Australian ISPs rely on.

2018-06-11 19:49:34 UTC  

Again, what new company? How with the regulation involved? And where? We have literally one option here that isn’t satellite.

2018-06-11 19:50:01 UTC  

Mine is pay by the month and unlimited. They are booming ahead because what other offer could be better

2018-06-11 19:50:18 UTC  

If those concerns were addressed I would agree

2018-06-11 19:50:25 UTC  

@Dr.Wol you are stuck with shitty internet either way because there is so much regulatory crap, plus the existing companies lobbying, that no new companies can compete. still no need to innovate or upgrade.

2018-06-11 19:50:36 UTC  

true, that is the issue

2018-06-11 19:51:01 UTC  

which is why some people want NN, so that if they are stuck with the same company, at least they are getting to all the sites they want to just like everyone else.

2018-06-11 19:51:16 UTC  

but its a bandaid that does nothing to fix the issue. it just makes everyone slow

2018-06-11 19:51:32 UTC  

we are all equal in poverty, so it were.

2018-06-11 19:51:49 UTC  

the one universal right

2018-06-11 19:51:55 UTC  

you have the right to live empoverished

2018-06-11 19:52:10 UTC  

The law here is if only one company is in the area, they must offer the deals of every other company.

2018-06-11 19:52:37 UTC  

how does that...work?

2018-06-11 19:52:42 UTC  

sounds like a nightmare

2018-06-11 19:52:54 UTC  

"here are the 357 different plan options"

2018-06-11 19:53:03 UTC  

i think government and big bussiness tends to fuck things up

2018-06-11 19:53:22 UTC  

government + big business fucks everything up.