yeah exactly

the left doesnt understand basic economics

If dna testing is the basis, then parents with adopted children would be categorized as traffickers lol

i think one of the key issues is that people in big cities just have al this stuff

streets, roads, water, trains

bridges

they dont realize its all maintained and paid for

they dont realize that more people means they need more maintenance

allow anyone to come here, increase foot traffic on roads, cars in the streets, train congestion

the hipsters in NYC complain about the MTA capacity and its near break down

well.. at least . because of trump being pres the media is showing the worst of the worst parts of what happens when you illegally go to the US

buttttt ehn are like "all are welcome"

There's also the fact that anyone presenting these problems is immediately shunned and slandered, so it's easier to be pro-mass immigration.

I doubt theyd be showing this (as much) under obama.... and at least its disuading people from trying it

you cant have a massive influx of people into any area because the infrastructure doesnt develop fast enough to accomodate it

best thing trump can say right now ... is "please please please.. come to the US... BUT.. do it legally"

I support merit based immigration, and in extreme cases, refugees. But letting everyone in isn't a viable idea

yeah I dont think people from mexico are refugees... if they want asylum they could get asylum in mexico ... cos hey.. the US is "run by a tyrant" 😛 and is "systematically racist and oppressive"... best seek asylum in mexico

really weird that all these millions of people are risking their lives to get INTO a systematically racist country run by hitler himself reincarnated

its almost like they see opportunity there or something... weird

and of course they will all claim asylum

how do we actually help real asylum seekers if everyone is one

thats the part that is just not true

there is no war

people need to define asylum

being poor in a poor country is not oppression

it is defined, its just used interchangably, when it shouldnt

no but MS13 is killing people

gangs in honduras hunt and kill ppl

is it the responsibility for the US to take care of the gangs?

on college campuses theres asylum ... and I think the inmates are running it

@Radcliffe depends on if you count the cartels and gangs as being as violent as rebel groups in a civil war or not.

yeah exactly

i get the feeling that many of the people that want us to take in migrants en masse are the same that want the US to stay out of other countries

Isn't MS13 just a gang? Do they count as a widespread problem in mexico?

They're a vicious, brutal gang, but do they count as a widespread army like ISIS or the Taliban?

@Deleted User MS13 is pretty big if i recall

maybe... hang on Im just thinking this through so it might come out weird....
what if, instead of paying for a $17bn ineffective wall... they pay $17bn to mexico (a figure which would fluctuate depending on how many get through) .. but basically pay mexico to stop people before they get through

"Mara Salvatrucha, also known as MS-13, is an international criminal gang that originated in Los Angeles, California, in the 1980s. The gang later spread to many parts of the continental United States, Canada, Mexico, and Central America, and is active in urban and suburban areas. Most members are of Central American origin, principally El Salvador."

Yeah, that's not gonna work

then if mexico want their huge sums of money they have to be active on the border