to take the cream from other countries and leave them with the dregs 😛

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"children are not illegal" ... thats another dumb one... its like if someone robbed a bank and someone said money is not illegal ... yeah.. but stealing it is :/

some children are illegal in China

MSM: Trump takes children away from their parents
actual real story: children were being taken away from parents based on a law from bill clinton ear - Trump ended it

I can only assume theyre mad at trump for ending this child-parent separation

America should do similar to Australia, EVERYONE that comes across the border is sent directly to Canada for processing.
It's win win, America stops imports and Trudeau gets all the crime he has been asking for

We send them to Christmas Island, which has turned into a rape village, but it's literally these people raping their own and not us

Canada feels sorry for the rest of the world so they are wiling to take the crime off our hands.

#CrimeForCanada

People know if you even think about coming here you end up at rape island

Trudeau could be a hero stepping in for Mexicans, Trump could be a hero for stopping the caged kiddos.. How is this not win win?

Canada would get burritos!!!

@wacka to become a legal citizen here can be very hard, like you need to basically find a job earning as much as a doctor or just don't bother trying... or just marry someone who was born here and wait a while. There was also some controversy like there being a certain number of legal immigrates that could be allowed in from certain countries and there was only like 1/4 of that total being granted or something.

there is also a test that most citizens born here would not pass

i dont think that makes any difference

nobody has a right to be in a country they werent born in... unless you are fleeing certain death there's no real excuse to break the law

and tbh its very unfair to legal migrants that went through the process... practically a spit in their face

Tim you need a beard trim sir

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Also it should be noted that the red hen situation and wedding cake one aren't really comparable. The baker was willing to sell cakes to the couple but not make a custom one while the red hen just kicked someone out because of politics.

I'm still pretty divided on if businesses should be forced to serve people or not. It can be abused in either direction.

I think the only way the gov should get involved is regulating that if any store wants to not serve a particular person based on whatever characteristics they should have to have a clear sign in their front window, so the person knows whether they should go in or not... also to let other businesses know they can get their business

let the free market decide

I can well imagine a few on the other side putting signs with crap like "no white men" ... no problem, store opens over the road "we serve everyone"

Businesses that sell shelf-products should let anyone with money shop there
Businesses that custom-make things (artists, etc) get to pick and choose their customers based on their 1st amendment (or equivalent document) rights

That's my current stance anyway

Yeah same.

That's why the cake thing was justified as it was a commission.

I dont see why they should be forced to sell anything...

free market will create a new shop across the road to fill the demand

and the people not serving will go out of business

At the same time I don't really think businesses should be forced to do stuff anymore. Back in the 50s and 60s it was needed but now we've progressed enough as a society that most people won't discriminate just because they can.

imagine the publicity... you open a new cake shop right across the road from that now infamous cake shop... you will make loads of money Im sure

Progress eventually turns regressive and I think that's the point we are at now with lots of laws which actually protected people being turned into jokes that protect no one.

to be fair I didn't mention laws or requirements, just said they (the businesses) "should"

They should yes with no relation to laws.

But if laws should force them is a whole different thing.

checking out a can of beans is hardly something that would fall under "entitled to someone else's labor"

Perhaps it should depend upon the type of service/good being offered

IE you are required to provide essential services and goods to people provided they can pay for it

things like food, water, clothes and cakes on hand should be sold to everyone