Message from @Windwalkr

Discord ID: 460932201412952076


2018-06-25 22:14:35 UTC  

In a world where human labor is still required to meet basic needs and unpredictable acts of nature can cause unplanned rearrangement of vast ammounts of resources, some form of capitalism is the best we have

2018-06-25 22:14:43 UTC  

@LotheronPrime I think mixed economics are the best system because it still allows free enterprise while still preventing full on mass consumerism.

2018-06-25 22:15:17 UTC  

whats wrong with consumerism though?

I mean, what horror exists in people using money they earned to buy things they want?

2018-06-25 22:15:27 UTC  

and don't say the environment

2018-06-25 22:15:39 UTC  

because public demand has already shifted in favor of not fucking the environment

2018-06-25 22:16:06 UTC  

and corporations responded with their "green initatives"

2018-06-25 22:16:17 UTC  

I think mass consumerism falls apart with mass automation.

2018-06-25 22:16:34 UTC  

mass automation will never be a thing in a way people thing doom and gloom will be

2018-06-25 22:16:44 UTC  

public demand is anything you staple as "a good cause"

2018-06-25 22:17:34 UTC  

think of all the things that weren't automated 100s of years ago and have been for a while and haven't really had an affect

2018-06-25 22:17:44 UTC  

cuz last i checked, LA, the corner stone of "we must do good at all costs" in the west is still full of smog, and combustable engine cars

2018-06-25 22:17:44 UTC  

there will always be soemthing new

2018-06-25 22:17:54 UTC  

@Dr.Wol having just consumerism provides no meaning in life and it leads to people thinking that only profit matters.

2018-06-25 22:17:57 UTC  

I don't see it as a zero sum game

2018-06-25 22:18:52 UTC  

I think when we get better with AI we will start seeing jobs like Pilots, and burger flippers, and grocery store cashiers, etc. going away.

2018-06-25 22:18:54 UTC  

i'll take profit matters above "surviving matters" which is what pretty much any non-capitalist system ends up prioritising

2018-06-25 22:19:23 UTC  

besides, people should find their own meaning in life, its part of being human, its part of being a man!
A man chooses, a slave obeys!

2018-06-25 22:19:34 UTC  

you can either have "no meaning" or "low lifeexpectancy"

2018-06-25 22:19:51 UTC  

which was just 55 or so 100 years ago

2018-06-25 22:20:00 UTC  

LoteronPrime It's because of preservatives in the Twinkies.

2018-06-25 22:20:06 UTC  

I'm sure of it

2018-06-25 22:20:15 UTC  

i dunno, make the friends around you happy, play games and enjoy life seems like a solid meaning to me

2018-06-25 22:20:30 UTC  

also, as JBP points out, meaning is brought from responsibility

2018-06-25 22:21:02 UTC  

good point though, all dem SJW's are irresponsible and feel like they have no meaning

2018-06-25 22:21:19 UTC  

I think society is more inportant than profits for corporations. A society is like the human body, the different parts of the society need to work together for it to work.

2018-06-25 22:21:25 UTC  

well they're responsibilities are misplaced, I think

2018-06-25 22:21:37 UTC  

and many are inheriently projecting

2018-06-25 22:21:51 UTC  

i.e. calling people racists while being racist themselves..

2018-06-25 22:22:11 UTC  

Society IS like a human body,

Feed it good elements and it becomes strong
Feed it bad elements and you end up with diahrrea,

That said, i don't need to fart, to move my arm
So maybe different roads are an option

2018-06-25 22:22:23 UTC  

I think profits for corporations have lead to the rise of charities that can make a difference

2018-06-25 22:22:48 UTC  

like the bill and melinda gates foundation and their African causes, for example

2018-06-25 22:22:53 UTC  

"Racism" or just thinking other races are different from your race is just natural.

2018-06-25 22:23:10 UTC  

that's not what racism is

2018-06-25 22:23:14 UTC  

different is natural

2018-06-25 22:23:16 UTC  

better than is racisim

2018-06-25 22:23:23 UTC  

being weary of other races and thinking different ARE natural, sure,

considering them lesser or better in value is not natural

2018-06-25 22:23:39 UTC  

What is "racisim" then?

2018-06-25 22:23:50 UTC  

thinking your race is better than another just because of race.

2018-06-25 22:24:05 UTC  

racism is that you judge someone based on their race

2018-06-25 22:24:09 UTC  

before even knowing them