Message from @zutt

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2018-07-09 17:24:51 UTC  

Lol

2018-07-09 17:25:08 UTC  

Anything can happen

2018-07-09 17:25:31 UTC  

There is very real split between remain and leave

2018-07-09 17:25:39 UTC  

I think that is the problem. Currently stability isn't certain.

2018-07-09 17:25:45 UTC  

And its not getting any smaller

2018-07-09 17:26:37 UTC  

Its possible there can be huge country wide protests if may carries on with her current plan

2018-07-09 17:27:13 UTC  

I think ppl are w8tin for eu response

2018-07-09 17:27:27 UTC  

Because eu will not accept current proposal

2018-07-09 17:27:40 UTC  

But yeah its building up

2018-07-09 17:27:41 UTC  

Well.. Whatever happens over in Europe and the UK, eventually filters over to the US, so I guess "we live in interesting times"

2018-07-09 17:28:06 UTC  

Yep

2018-07-09 17:30:07 UTC  

Instead of leaving the eu the uk should work to reform it because the concept is a good one - its just the execution that sucks

2018-07-09 17:31:06 UTC  

Reforming eu is extremely hard to do tho

2018-07-09 17:31:25 UTC  

What you need is ppl movement spreading across borders

2018-07-09 17:31:34 UTC  

Like acta protests

2018-07-09 17:31:57 UTC  

They were effective because they spread all through the eu

2018-07-09 17:32:47 UTC  

One country on its own cant realy reform much at this point

2018-07-09 17:44:38 UTC  

You can't reform the EU because all of the EU laws are written by the executive in the European Commission - which is a bunch of unelected bureaucrats and civil servants.

2018-07-09 17:45:21 UTC  

Therefore the commission decides the direction of the EU.

2018-07-09 17:45:24 UTC  

Yeah this is nice show of the nararive power

2018-07-09 17:45:44 UTC  

And who apoints those bureaucrats ?

2018-07-09 17:45:58 UTC  

they appoint themselves...

2018-07-09 17:46:02 UTC  

No

2018-07-09 17:46:12 UTC  

They dont lol

2018-07-09 17:46:33 UTC  

They are appointed by elected representatives of eu countries

2018-07-09 17:46:54 UTC  

That much should be obvious

2018-07-09 17:47:11 UTC  

Ok but the executive is not appointed by MEPs.

2018-07-09 17:47:31 UTC  

Which executive ?

2018-07-09 17:47:40 UTC  

You mean eu commission?

2018-07-09 17:48:05 UTC  

Members of eu commission are appointed by member states

2018-07-09 17:48:11 UTC  

Each state appoints one

2018-07-09 17:48:18 UTC  

And then they grill them

2018-07-09 17:49:18 UTC  

the EU probably wont work because you're trying to align multiple systems of goverments, cultures, etc under a single umbrella

2018-07-09 17:49:32 UTC  

this was bound to happen once the honeymoon period was over

2018-07-09 17:49:44 UTC  

Well we will see

2018-07-09 17:49:58 UTC  

Its true there is some cultural friction rn

2018-07-09 17:50:10 UTC  

With east and west seeing things differently

2018-07-09 17:50:27 UTC  

But i think you can still talk things out

2018-07-09 17:51:35 UTC  

perhaps, but its much easier to talk things out as sovereign nations when you can go your own ways when you disagree, instead of being highly entangled

2018-07-09 17:52:44 UTC  

the best part of negotiations is being able to walk away

2018-07-09 17:53:12 UTC  

right now, you don't have that with the EU outside of a very intricate process (which has never happened before)