well that was my point, if you have open jobs, and not enough people to fill them, you can't wait 15-18 years to fill them, you can't wait maybe even 5 years.

i think america has plenty of stupid people who could work, its just that we put them through college anyway

That sounds like a really bad idea or things that require skilled labor

so if you are gonna be letting people in based on any metric outside general "do you not have a history of killing people", it should be based on qualification for a job that needs to be filled.

Well I mean considering the LAPD half of the applicants fail the background check

i dont think america needs immigration to solve its industry problems

farmers would disagree

and not because they can pay cheap

That's called artificially lowering the cost of production

there were farmers in at least one state, paying up to 10 bucks an hour

Which is using government programs and intervention for their benefit

and then the state basically removed all immigrates

and they still can't fill that

That is why we got fat and lazy people

there is just not enough people

that want or even CAN work that job

I got into argument with that

i can tell you, the people who are stupid and went through college? you are not turning them into a farmer

A century egg I would rather work for $12 an hour as a secretary vs $20 as a farmer

not until they are at least 5-10 years down the line training.

Stupid Google speech to text

that sounds like an area that basicly was an immigrant town that had a long history of immigrants competing with the native population for that position, the native population moved out, and when you got rid of the immigrant population the only native population left were to high class for the work

no, its a whole state

not a single town

which state?

hold on, i need to find it, i want to say Alabama

because thats a different problem

Sounds to me they forgot to automate the process

its one of those southern or mid-eastern ones that suddenly went real hard on immigration

Because I know before there was issues with Gathering and there was a demand for automation someone designed it and actually sold it

the problem your describing there is AMERICA has people who would take that job, but the issue is that those people would have to leaves the city in order to take those jobs, we have a lot of population dencity problems here in the usa

where the jobs are isint where the people are

Oh you mean like in Los Angeles and New York City where massive population leads to unemployment

find me a city slicker that will be a farmer and i'll show you a republican from a city

we still have pretty bad unimployment right now

don't link Trump Grenade 😛

https://player.fm/series/science-vs/immigration

Because I am from a relatively big city and if I can find a farming job that pays $20 an hour I would actually move there if I actually don't have my current job

i dont think theres any industry right now that has more positions for our total unimployment its just that the unimployed are far from the places where these jobs are

I know five others that are artist majors that would not do this

its not a problem of jobs not being where people are, its people not being qualified for the jobs that are open