Message from @Zuihou

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2018-07-13 14:02:03 UTC  

I don't think affirmative action is the way to go

2018-07-13 14:02:20 UTC  

Oh ok

2018-07-13 14:02:35 UTC  

Yeah I think there's a few root societal problems that need to be dealt with

2018-07-13 14:02:39 UTC  

i think that so long as a nation isint suffereing from a preexisting immigration crisis (looking at you europe) then really it doesent need a eugenics or forced exodus policy. in my opinion it doesent even need a "high iq only" immigration policy, i prefer something slightly different, but even so i think its fine to keep the nation you have and work with that rather than try and change the people, better to try and serve the people

2018-07-13 14:03:27 UTC  

in the US, ironically, it seems we have a lower IQ worker deficient

2018-07-13 14:03:37 UTC  

I did a small analytical thinking paper about affirmative action where minorities such as Hispanics and blacks do worse when they are giving affirmative action compared to the others

2018-07-13 14:03:38 UTC  

or at least, a labor job deficient

2018-07-13 14:04:07 UTC  

Well yeah, you never get better results when someone doesn't feel like they have ownership of the results

2018-07-13 14:04:34 UTC  

i agree grenade, though i dont think imported jobs should solve that, i think that when you realize your nation requires a working class, you find that inteligence isint a very good metric to bar people from your country on

2018-07-13 14:05:02 UTC  

Not only that the biggest problem is if you believe that you are smarter than and the rest and got into let's say USC but when you arrive you actually are below average and combined with affirmative action you're even lower than that

2018-07-13 14:05:33 UTC  

well that was my point, if you have open jobs, and not enough people to fill them, you can't wait 15-18 years to fill them, you can't wait maybe even 5 years.

2018-07-13 14:06:09 UTC  

i think america has plenty of stupid people who could work, its just that we put them through college anyway

2018-07-13 14:06:14 UTC  

That sounds like a really bad idea or things that require skilled labor

2018-07-13 14:06:26 UTC  

so if you are gonna be letting people in based on any metric outside general "do you not have a history of killing people", it should be based on qualification for a job that needs to be filled.

2018-07-13 14:06:56 UTC  

Well I mean considering the LAPD half of the applicants fail the background check

2018-07-13 14:07:08 UTC  

i dont think america needs immigration to solve its industry problems

2018-07-13 14:07:26 UTC  

farmers would disagree

2018-07-13 14:07:41 UTC  

and not because they can pay cheap

2018-07-13 14:07:46 UTC  

That's called artificially lowering the cost of production

2018-07-13 14:08:06 UTC  

there were farmers in at least one state, paying up to 10 bucks an hour

2018-07-13 14:08:13 UTC  

Which is using government programs and intervention for their benefit

2018-07-13 14:08:25 UTC  

and then the state basically removed all immigrates

2018-07-13 14:08:30 UTC  

and they still can't fill that

2018-07-13 14:08:32 UTC  

That is why we got fat and lazy people

2018-07-13 14:08:34 UTC  

there is just not enough people

2018-07-13 14:08:50 UTC  

that want or even CAN work that job

2018-07-13 14:09:00 UTC  

I got into argument with that

2018-07-13 14:09:05 UTC  

i can tell you, the people who are stupid and went through college? you are not turning them into a farmer

2018-07-13 14:09:26 UTC  

A century egg I would rather work for $12 an hour as a secretary vs $20 as a farmer

2018-07-13 14:09:40 UTC  

not until they are at least 5-10 years down the line training.

2018-07-13 14:09:45 UTC  

Stupid Google speech to text

2018-07-13 14:10:01 UTC  

that sounds like an area that basicly was an immigrant town that had a long history of immigrants competing with the native population for that position, the native population moved out, and when you got rid of the immigrant population the only native population left were to high class for the work

2018-07-13 14:10:19 UTC  

no, its a whole state

2018-07-13 14:10:29 UTC  

not a single town

2018-07-13 14:10:33 UTC  

which state?

2018-07-13 14:10:48 UTC  

hold on, i need to find it, i want to say Alabama

2018-07-13 14:10:50 UTC  

because thats a different problem

2018-07-13 14:10:51 UTC  

Sounds to me they forgot to automate the process

2018-07-13 14:11:22 UTC  

its one of those southern or mid-eastern ones that suddenly went real hard on immigration

2018-07-13 14:11:34 UTC  

Because I know before there was issues with Gathering and there was a demand for automation someone designed it and actually sold it

2018-07-13 14:11:47 UTC  

the problem your describing there is AMERICA has people who would take that job, but the issue is that those people would have to leaves the city in order to take those jobs, we have a lot of population dencity problems here in the usa