Message from @GingaBomber
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Its just too darn high. Abortions amongst them too. Too many single moms realize its more welfare being single with a child.
"When Moynihan warned in his 1965 report on the coming destruction of the Black family, however, the out-of-wedlock birthrate had increased to 25% among the Black population.[25] This figure continued to rise over time and in 1991, 68% of Black children were born outside of marriage."
Quick bit from wikipedia.
'Out of wedlock' doesnt really 1:1 with single mothers per say, but it might be fairly close.
Interesting that the civil rights act was passed in 1964. So if you werent paying attention to any other factors, you could see that statistic and draw a correlation.
Did the civil rights action do something specifically?
Or did the parties learn something.
?
Unsure of what answer you're fishing for.
Or what you mean by 'did the parties learn something'
I mean the decline of the family unit. Was it caused by the civil rights movement. Or was it due to them becoming a voting bloc and the parties started running out to grab their vote.
Decline of the family unit isnt a black only thing.
And as you can see the dems have a strangllehold on them through alot of welfare.
You seem to at least somewhat be falling for what i think alot of people might, when they see that statistic.
Yes, blacks have a higher rate of out-of-wedlock births
But it was rising, consistently, for everyone around the times listed in that wiki quote
Oh of course, but its easier to point out amongst the black community when people talk abortions or singlemothers and alot of welfare. Its the result of alot of govt intervention causing the society to regress as a whole
Suppose if that's how you want to view it you can.
While the others were doing it as in worseon without the need of govt intervention.
That one, im not too clear, but ive heard people blame the media or even the decline of morals in general.
You've heard that and think it has some merit?
I think the declining morals bit has some merit. Issue is that what morals are is very subjective, and well, you might end up regressing as people start censoring stuff for immoral values.
I wouldnt call what i think you're talking about a 'decline'
Its more so a 'shift'
I think thats a better term.
You could perhaps list the decline of religious (Christian, Primarily) values as a reason for more births occuring out of wedlock, and higher divorce rates.
Still, now peoples morals are focused on doing right by the "oppressed". But morals when it comes to the family unit or openess with sex may have reduced.
Sure its a shift, ultimely why I said its very subjective.
Im not too sure if relligious values were the main drive for that.
Peoples morals and values vary wildly. I dont really have any comment on the first part, but alot of the sacredness of the 'family unit' or 'nuclear family' is related to religious/christian values (Which can be held even by people who arent religious at least in part) Also related to modesty surrounding sex, and whether it feels taboo to talk about it.
But I guess relligious values have declined lately as well. Where it counts.
Huh didnt realize that, its also the difference between that and well, people who jump around between multiple partners and never marrying.
Well, somebody can be a christian, go to church once in a while, pray, but in daily life give it next to no regard.
Never putting it to practice?
Yeah, you could say that i suppose.
Also, im new, but are we in the wrong room?
I dont think people care these days. Disussing news is this room.
Like the firearms chat is now discussing space battles.
Fair enough.
Channel used to be just fake news, general and shitposting. Well a fewrooms, with only the shitposting one allowing images.