Message from @pratel

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2018-07-17 21:58:41 UTC  

LOL man that would be hilarious if it happens in more areas LOL

2018-07-17 22:02:42 UTC  

im so mixed on voter id

2018-07-17 22:03:05 UTC  

i mean i get the reasoning for the push for it

2018-07-17 22:03:19 UTC  

its just when u dont have any mandated photo id

2018-07-17 22:03:33 UTC  

part of me thinks that having confirmation of citizenship and residency is good but then non-citizens cant even register to vote anyway so

2018-07-17 22:03:59 UTC  

like even here the only one that is semi gouvt mandated is medicare cards that have photo but u actually dont have to buy into the system and dotn get a card from it

2018-07-17 22:04:12 UTC  

so if u dont have a drivers licence or passport then youre fucked

2018-07-17 22:04:36 UTC  

in canadia

2018-07-17 22:04:46 UTC  

i poll worked the primary so the Ids where used to cross reference voter info

2018-07-17 22:04:58 UTC  

that moment too when they ask for multiple peices of photo ID yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah

2018-07-17 22:04:59 UTC  

with poll book data

2018-07-17 22:05:41 UTC  

birth cirtificate doesnt work cuz its got no photo so unless u spend all that fucking money that if youre broke you dont have then youre fucked by the gouvt

2018-07-17 22:05:56 UTC  

"Today, far-right conservatives are using outrage on the left to conduct a nefarious prank, demanding voter ID laws in upcoming elections to “prevent Russian interference.”"

Huh? "far-right conservatives" How do we know it's a conservative operation? Because it's clearly right-wing twitter users promoting it.

"On the face of it, the meme seems like a convincing argument, which is what makes the prank work. Russian agents attempt to interfere with the election. If only verified U.S. citizens can vote, the problem is solved."

I mean. It *is* an argument. And it doesn't strike me as unconvincing.

"It’s a movement that would help Republicans tremendously. In pushing it as a joke for Democrats to try and adopt, they are hoping the party sabotages themselves.

But by doing so, they are also referencing the things that they are loathed to admit. The president has been adamant in a few things: that he didn’t collude with Russia and that Russian interference (if it even existed) in 2016 did nothing to alter the vote totals."

*You spin me right round baby right round, like a record baby right round, round, round*

2018-07-17 22:06:01 UTC  

poll books have your name and address which you match with the id

2018-07-17 22:06:29 UTC  

Yeah, in this day and age though, name and address can be mined nearly instantly.

2018-07-17 22:07:06 UTC  

if someone changed that they cannot vote in that polling place

2018-07-17 22:07:17 UTC  

there are percedures

2018-07-17 22:07:56 UTC  

their info has to match whats in the pollbooks

2018-07-17 22:08:01 UTC  

or they cannot vote

2018-07-17 22:08:23 UTC  

they have to update their info

2018-07-17 22:08:26 UTC  

Ultimately, it's just hard to prevent fraud.

I had a Union election. The Union made sure to check and double check every single person with ID. Photo ID and designated polling place.

2018-07-17 22:08:51 UTC  

doesnt help that electric ballots arent safe

2018-07-17 22:09:11 UTC  

Are paper ballots safe?

2018-07-17 22:09:14 UTC  

we use paper and a scanner which is more secure

2018-07-17 22:09:32 UTC  

What security measures are in place for those?

2018-07-17 22:09:46 UTC  

Which primary was this, may I ask?

2018-07-17 22:09:48 UTC  

basically fill out the ballot with your marks then put it in a scanner that counts the votes based on the scan

2018-07-17 22:10:07 UTC  

I really don't see how that's different from any other digital method

2018-07-17 22:10:07 UTC  

asking me to dox myself lel

2018-07-17 22:10:17 UTC  

?

2018-07-17 22:10:25 UTC  

I was curious what state and party mostly.

2018-07-17 22:10:41 UTC  

Since states have different procedures and parties treat things differently in each state.

2018-07-17 22:10:41 UTC  

im messing

2018-07-17 22:10:45 UTC  

Virginia

2018-07-17 22:11:03 UTC  

it was two party primary

2018-07-17 22:12:04 UTC  

scanner drops ballots into a cabinet and at the end of the voting period, we collect the paper

2018-07-17 22:12:26 UTC  

scanner then prints multiple receipts recording the votes

2018-07-17 22:13:05 UTC  

So really it's more of an automated vote counter.

2018-07-17 22:13:10 UTC  

and to my knowledge there is no known way to hack these scanners compared to the electric booths

2018-07-17 22:13:14 UTC  

yea

2018-07-17 22:13:33 UTC  

it detects errors too