Yes but if these rational people cannot take a stand against it, or if the narrative only goes for it, then the effect will only be one way.

Rationality does not always lead to power. The minority has ruled in the majority of human societies.

giving in to these hate mobs will lead to negative financial consequences, companies and institutions will see that and stop giving in.

you can see the first signs of it with star wars going from a guaranteed money maker to losing money in the span of one movie trying to appease those people.

That's not the plan on the left. To them it's a war of attrition. If there aren't alternatives people will eventually just give up and let them win.

They're right. And they're attacking anyone and anything that could provide such an alternative.

yeah... thats their problem

Esp since they control so much of the culture and productive industries.

if you attack everyone, everyone is against you

They technically don't even have to attack everyone. Just wait long enough to become a large enough minority.

Most people aren't confrontational. And most experience cognative dissonance with this stuff. Just look at what happens to some people on Reddit with respect to these things.

it will not die because people confront them, it will die because people will stop listening to what they are saying

and avoid people, companies and institutions that are still listening to them

Yes, but what if that is *all of them*

If you control enough of the culture and are sufficiently active you can deny effectively air to everyone.

then the market will sort it out

Not if they get all major players to act as a sufficiently powerful cartel.

Suppose you can't get a loan. People are already being banned from all the paymet processors.

then regulation will sort it out

Not if they control the regulators.

Actually, if they control the regulators there are no alternatives.

and if the american market will not sort it out: the european or asian market will.

You can regulate them out of existence.

They're even stronger in Europe.

the uk is not europe

OK, who exactly are you thinking of. Everythign I've seen suggests Germany, Switzerland, Sweden and France are atleast as SJW-converged as the US and UK if not more.

Asia is special. The fact hentai porn exists does nothing at the end of the day with this stuff.

Germany is not even in the same conversation (anymore) as the us and uk.

The whole social justice stuff had a completely different trajectory.

(1) I'm curious to hear how so. I heard Germany cities were waging war on traffic signals for being discriminatory.
(2) Contagion. If every business plays social justice and makes it a mandate to do business, it WILL spread.

#2 is why we shouldn't just say "someone else will take care of it"

Especially since the anglophone world is so large and powerful.

I think there was something in austria with the traffic signals... germany had female Ampelmännchen in the 90s

Also... why the fk is Ampelmännchen a word in english?!

The general populace in germany is moving more to the right/center currently. Has been since the mid 2000s, albeit slowly.

I'd want to hear more than "moving to the right/center" to be convinced. Is there some kind of organized pushback? Is there a sign that they don't have influence?

Don‘t have influence would be wrong. But it‘s not nearly as prevalent as it was in the 90s/early 2000s or as it is in the us.

And the activists ARE well organized.

(See G20 last year)

One problem they face in germany is for example their alliance with islam. Because islam is not really friendly to a certain other religion that because of historical reasons has a lot more pull and can quite easily push back.

Another thing to consider is that half the country lived under soviet rule.

And the tactics currently used by social justice people are very reminiscent of blockwart and stasi mentality.