Message from @pratel

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2018-07-30 23:19:43 UTC  

There is a reason unions came to power once. If a whole division quits over someone being fired it makes a statement.

2018-07-30 23:20:26 UTC  

You're never going to get the American right to behave in such a collectivist way.

2018-07-30 23:20:35 UTC  

I'm not sure.

2018-07-30 23:20:38 UTC  

That ain't happening man.

2018-07-30 23:20:50 UTC  

How many fucking candidates did they have again?

2018-07-30 23:21:05 UTC  

So what, jsut throw everything in the air and give it all up?

2018-07-30 23:21:12 UTC  

Let the left dominate everything?

2018-07-30 23:21:34 UTC  

No, I think there is a sense of unity among the right, but it needs to learn how to use it.

2018-07-30 23:21:55 UTC  

The left is always trying to tell itself to emphasize unity and complains it lacks unity itself.

2018-07-30 23:22:03 UTC  

No, but you're going to have to realize that the right is not the left. They are made up of people who think in fundamentally different ways. You're just trying to get the right to emulate the left and I'm pointing out they can't do so. It's against what makes them conservative.

2018-07-30 23:22:46 UTC  

I think you can rally people to a collective goal if the sitution is clear enough.

2018-07-30 23:23:12 UTC  

If the right became a mob of collectivist pod people shouting slogans and wearing identical t-shirts i wouldn't want to have anything to do with them.

2018-07-30 23:23:15 UTC  

"There's no libertarians or social conservatives in the academy" is going to attract two groups of people.

2018-07-30 23:23:24 UTC  

I'd rather act like insurgents.

2018-07-30 23:23:39 UTC  

Ok. So what do you plan to do?

2018-07-30 23:24:07 UTC  

I'm not going to discuss what I am doing.

2018-07-30 23:24:12 UTC  

Not in an open forum.

2018-07-30 23:24:23 UTC  

I like the idea of insurgents. But the habit seems to be to pretend that you'll take the management position in a company. And then you discover you can't just act unilaterally and nothing actually happens.

2018-07-30 23:24:49 UTC  

@Atkins well, I can't make you trust me. But if you want to talk, we can try to set up some kind of encrypted channel.

2018-07-30 23:25:19 UTC  

I might be wrong in how I think this could be played. But I feel very strongly that there is fundamentally no discussion of tactics among anyone other than the far left.

2018-07-30 23:25:40 UTC  

And the tactics discussion *needs* to happen or the far left will always dictate the norms of society.

2018-07-30 23:26:08 UTC  

PM me if you want to try and set something up.

2018-07-30 23:26:37 UTC  

sum good ole game theory would be a good idea XD get a bit of a stride for the right

2018-07-30 23:27:05 UTC  

although ppl on the right dont seem liek the kind to be willfully ignorant about game theory

2018-07-30 23:27:14 UTC  

its just not a part of common parlance

2018-07-30 23:27:45 UTC  

Honestly, in my experience alot of people on the right tend to be pretty apathetic to anything that doesn't get hits on Rush Limbaugh.

2018-07-30 23:28:16 UTC  

It depends alot on what kind of right you're talking about though. Not everyone is the same.

2018-07-30 23:28:37 UTC  

XD lol yeah very true lol even just in the US theres many kinds of right-wingers

2018-07-30 23:28:41 UTC  

Intersectionality was originally developed in the 80s precisely because far left activists struggled to keep people together.

2018-07-30 23:28:49 UTC  

then u look at international politics and yep

2018-07-30 23:29:13 UTC  

Libertarians are very flexible and can be rather bold. But they also tend to be little too fundamentalist in strategy and can't unify on anything.

2018-07-30 23:29:34 UTC  

Law and order conservatives want to fade into the background, let law enforcement solve everything and just watch football.

2018-07-30 23:29:41 UTC  

Already you can see the conflict.

2018-07-30 23:29:55 UTC  

XD yeah the whole authority thing

2018-07-30 23:30:18 UTC  

Rockefeller conservatives are important as they hold the resources but are completely flaky and bend under pressure easily.

2018-07-30 23:30:31 UTC  

They'll do whatever they can to get ahead.

2018-07-30 23:30:44 UTC  

yeah i mean gotta follow the green brick road so to speak

2018-07-30 23:31:03 UTC  

Classical liberals haven't settled into a form yet. But I'm guessing they'll be somewhere between the libertarians and conservatives.

2018-07-30 23:31:07 UTC  

especially when you already have that much money

2018-07-30 23:31:26 UTC  

I mean, they are literally conservatives because they don't want to pay taxes.

2018-07-30 23:31:37 UTC  

It's not exactly like they're complicated people.