Left wing organizations were designated "obscene" in the 90s.

The Proud Boys could've been something good, but they've been mired in controversy and accusations of racism since day one.

I'm not sure that really matters much for the fight over the academy.

Who else is going to be shouting "THIS IS WHAT YOU DO TO US"?

What, you think there will be a false flag of some sort?

No, just that it's extremely difficult to get a conservative group together for real life activism because they get labelled racist and nobody wants to participate.

This reminds me so much of the discussions I was having about a year and a half ago in which I said silicon valley was going to play censor and Congress needed to be looking at doing something about it then.

I can get away with going to a demonstration because I'm self-employed and don't give a fuck what anyone calls me.

But anyone who works for a corp is dead meat if they show up to a conservative rally.

Not necessarily. And even if that were true, if you're in the College Republicans you're already pretty marked as is.

I mean, the kids already making "affirmative action bake sales" and running TPUSA booths are already pretty committed.

Effective messaging is hard, I will agree. But that's something the right needs to learn.

Gotta weed out the Nazi LARPers too.

Agreed. And you need a system of identification (like colorful standardized Tshirts)

The big thing the right needs to learn is how to not suffer defeat in detail every time someone speaks up.

There is a reason unions came to power once. If a whole division quits over someone being fired it makes a statement.

You're never going to get the American right to behave in such a collectivist way.

I'm not sure.

That ain't happening man.

How many fucking candidates did they have again?

So what, jsut throw everything in the air and give it all up?

Let the left dominate everything?

No, I think there is a sense of unity among the right, but it needs to learn how to use it.

The left is always trying to tell itself to emphasize unity and complains it lacks unity itself.

No, but you're going to have to realize that the right is not the left. They are made up of people who think in fundamentally different ways. You're just trying to get the right to emulate the left and I'm pointing out they can't do so. It's against what makes them conservative.

I think you can rally people to a collective goal if the sitution is clear enough.

If the right became a mob of collectivist pod people shouting slogans and wearing identical t-shirts i wouldn't want to have anything to do with them.

"There's no libertarians or social conservatives in the academy" is going to attract two groups of people.

I'd rather act like insurgents.

Ok. So what do you plan to do?

I'm not going to discuss what I am doing.

Not in an open forum.

I like the idea of insurgents. But the habit seems to be to pretend that you'll take the management position in a company. And then you discover you can't just act unilaterally and nothing actually happens.

@Atkins well, I can't make you trust me. But if you want to talk, we can try to set up some kind of encrypted channel.

I might be wrong in how I think this could be played. But I feel very strongly that there is fundamentally no discussion of tactics among anyone other than the far left.

And the tactics discussion *needs* to happen or the far left will always dictate the norms of society.

PM me if you want to try and set something up.

sum good ole game theory would be a good idea XD get a bit of a stride for the right

although ppl on the right dont seem liek the kind to be willfully ignorant about game theory

its just not a part of common parlance

Honestly, in my experience alot of people on the right tend to be pretty apathetic to anything that doesn't get hits on Rush Limbaugh.