Message from @pratel
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Rockefeller conservatives are important as they hold the resources but are completely flaky and bend under pressure easily.
They'll do whatever they can to get ahead.
yeah i mean gotta follow the green brick road so to speak
Classical liberals haven't settled into a form yet. But I'm guessing they'll be somewhere between the libertarians and conservatives.
especially when you already have that much money
I mean, they are literally conservatives because they don't want to pay taxes.
It's not exactly like they're complicated people.
And on stuff like social issues they'll fall to whatever they can brownnose with best.
yeah for real 😛 wherever they can stick that nose to get favours/lax regulations
Now we've got the reactionaries. Who would be the natural analog to the radical left, but they're rather toxic and lack any sense of discipline or PR.
Everyone knows the Alt-Right is toxic and more likely to harm themselves and anyone associated with them, but the Alt-right isn't going to shut up either.
yeah i mean reacting willy nilly to everything, even if selectivley moderated, isnt very organised
no matter how much you moderate your reactions/what you react to
To some extent anarchy is good. But oyu have to be able to specify specific goals and reach them.
yeah the alt right is like the loud special kid in the back of the class everyone feels too akward to tell to their face to shut up
You also have to be able to assert dominance so to speak in the private sphere.
and instead talks behind their back all day
Which is a horrifying concept to calssical liberal ideology.
I think http://slatestarcodex.com/2017/05/01/neutral-vs-conservative-the-eternal-struggle/ sums up a key element of how stuff like GamerGate happens.
It's a defeat in detail.
XD my internet explorer (dont ask y i still use it) is shitting out fml
I just realized this was a really bad place for this long discussion.
should have been in debate or something.
XD lol yeah with all teh links
If you can see the title it should work just to search it.
Slatestarcodex is a pretty simple blog.
lol yeah its loading jsut not loading anything.
Hold on, I'll copy paste it to you in a private chat.
ok sick that works
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yeah that op ed covers alot of ground and i think your right in saying it hits the nail on the head of the mechanism that has led to the current political climate in terms of these cultural bubbles in academia, the MSM, silicone valley, ect...
honestly though it does seem as though the left will be suceptible to the sort of thing the right has been going through soon enough
in terms of very overtly partisan media groups seperating themselves from the current mainstream (to form their own liberal directed mainstream) because of lacking systematic unilateral power
once trump gets re-elected
even though thats a bit off i think it gives just enough time for the sort of unfurling (into radical far-leftist ideology) the left has slowley but surely been going through
for it to get to a point where we will have essentially 2 paradoxical mainstreams, both equally ignoring facts for the point of reinforcing their own existance
with any sort of reasonable centre fighting for what little views they would get
Oh sure, but a few billion for a border wall is completely unacceptable
Double standards