I _really_ liked portland when I visited in 2013 so it's a bummer it got so crazy

oregon is basically an extension of idaho up until you reach the mountains

yeah i used to like it here

I live in texas now and everything is great except it's been >100 every day for hte past three weeks

also I miss mountains

damn. we went on vacation to the coast just to get away from the 90 degree weather here for a weekend

i can't survive heat like that lol

Which part of TX?

austin

I thought TX was still sane.

Oh. THAT makes sense.

Austin. Urrrrr...

but out of all the places with healthy tech industries Austin and Denver are prett ymuch the only places I think are viable. Everywhere else is too crazy, too expensive, too urbanized, or some combination

Can confirm, would not advise moving to chicago at the moment

when **would** you advise moving to chicago tbh

Austin and Denver...not coincidentally the places most in danger of turning their states into California 2.

To much consternation of the natives.

As someone who lived in Austin for 5 years.

yeah I'm going to be pretty peeved if I escape california only to have it follow me

Yeah, I'd believe it.

fuck it, I'll go move to montana and be a hermit or something

Just know when you see us Texans griping about the "damn Californians" we're mostly referring to the ones who feel obligated to change the culture and politics.

So probably not you if I'm reading you right.

And this is from a native Texan who lived in Austin just as the Social Justice nonsense was starting.

Lol. My escape strategy is the open Midwest.

I'm from midwest canada

it would be nice to go back but:
-40 winter
programming jobs pay ~ 1/3rd of my current salary
shitty health care
concern over teh direction the country is currently going (although if they can generate enough backlash to replace trudeau without going hard right, this will probably get better)

Yeah, I keep hearing stuff about Doug Ford. Not sure if that's your idea of hard right. But I can see him coming to power in Canada.

I don't know enough about the specifics but based on what I know, doug ford is fine

at worst he will be incompetent but (as far as I know) there's nothing extreme about him

I don't know too much. Except that he's getting the same response from the institutions that Trump gets here.

more like trudon't

I looked into it for all of about 2 minutes but doug ford's entire platform seems to be "I will undo all the things Kathleen Wynne did"

and all I know about Kathleen Wynne is that she pushed SJW stuff in middle schools and she made electricity super expensive with aggressive green mandates

so I'm fine with this

yeah that's a pretty good platform tbh

"un-fuck the country" is usually a solid platform

just ontario, not the country

oh ok so only most of the country

:^)

yep