Message from @Stefan Payne
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Yes, a small one but a start.
and we need to deport those People, there is no other way.
@Poppy Rider I suspect that any German speaking channel would be from Germany, and therefore heavily curtailed in what they can legally say.
Agreed
Agrred atkins. It just goes to show, if all these ppl are neo-nazis, that censoring speach doesn't work.
If they're going after people for private facebook groups i doubt they're allowing public discussion
It only causes the barrel to blow up more violently.
Kruat needs to come back.
Thing is: Dave Cullen talks about r/K Selection Theory!
I'm incredibly skeptical about any claims connected to Chemnitz from any source. We cannot trust anything.
So much disinformation and manipulation from all players.
Yes, much like Charlottesville last year
Though the Police in Chemnits does a good job it seems.
And it looks like most of the people from the Protest are rather peaceful and do what the Police says
This is precisely the sort of thing that Yuri Bezmenov was talking about.
We are awash in information but have no ability to determine reality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE2PP7EowdM&ab_channel=TomScott I saw this a while back that talked about disillusion with modern news at one point
There are mainstream media sources making claims that Putin is behind this.
<http://observer.com/2018/08/is-vladimir-putin-behind-right-wing-riots-in-chemnitz-germany/>
This was on the first page of Google results for 'chemnitz riots'
Holy fuck is the Media Insane?!
I'm totally at a loss of Words.
Maybe we should tag Tim and ask him to make a second Channel Video about that?
The only information that appears (at the moment at least) to be credible is that a man was stabbed to death, that the two suspects arrested in connection with the stabbing were migrants, and that a large public protest happened as a result. Any other information is suspect.
lolz. Honestly, fuck google and fuck the msm.
We know that Violence happened
Against Journalists
Who were illegaly entering an Appartment....
Claims about the motivation for the attack as suspect, claims about the migrant's backgrounds are suspect, claims about the size, political bent, organization, goals, etc, of the protest are suspect.
And trying to film some places, they were shouted away
Some say the attack happened because people involved were drunk, others say it happened because there was an attempted rape. Who you believe is completely dependent on your political biases.
Some say the migrants were criminals, others say they were there legally. Again, you just have to believe whatever you choose.
What I heard was that they only Harassed Women and the germans came to help the Women.
Some say the protest was nazis, others say it was just regular citizens. Some say it was 4000 people, others say it was 10000+. Some say it was peaceful, others say it was violent. Some say it was organic, others say it was orchestrated.
and then they got stabbed
Atkins, yes, who you believe is down to you but if you're going to play the numbers what would you put your money on.
We cannot trust the media when they have obvious political biases and agendas of their own, let alone German media which have legal restrictions which may literally prevent them from legally telling the truth even if they intend to.
@Atkins
With Nazis its the same as in the US. There are a couple but the Protest happened almost immideately and they got at least hundreds, if not thousands of people. That's just too much for Nazis. Though there might be some Racist and Pro 3rd Reich People there but they are a minority. Like 5% at most.
^^^
BUT: What happened after the Initial demonstration might have caused a dramatic influx in Far Right Activists as "normal people" got insulted and trampled on. If the führthest Right are the ones that actually listen to the People, that is what they will turn to.
It's also incredibly easy to manipulate such things. If you're a lefty journalist who wants to paint the crowd as nazis to serve your agenda, you can just get one of your buddies to run in front of a wide angle shot and throw a hitler salute.