Message from @Vigil

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2018-09-03 16:37:05 UTC  

Are there many German speaking YT channels talking about this stuff?

2018-09-03 16:37:15 UTC  

BUT: The Mayor from Berlin is looking into deporting some (police known) migrants.

2018-09-03 16:37:57 UTC  

Thats a start.

2018-09-03 16:38:08 UTC  

Yes, a small one but a start.

2018-09-03 16:38:21 UTC  

and we need to deport those People, there is no other way.

2018-09-03 16:38:29 UTC  

@Poppy Rider I suspect that any German speaking channel would be from Germany, and therefore heavily curtailed in what they can legally say.

2018-09-03 16:38:31 UTC  

Agreed

2018-09-03 16:39:32 UTC  

Agrred atkins. It just goes to show, if all these ppl are neo-nazis, that censoring speach doesn't work.

2018-09-03 16:39:43 UTC  

If they're going after people for private facebook groups i doubt they're allowing public discussion

2018-09-03 16:39:52 UTC  

It only causes the barrel to blow up more violently.

2018-09-03 16:40:04 UTC  

Kruat needs to come back.

2018-09-03 16:40:33 UTC  

Thing is: Dave Cullen talks about r/K Selection Theory!

2018-09-03 16:41:47 UTC  

I'm incredibly skeptical about any claims connected to Chemnitz from any source. We cannot trust anything.

2018-09-03 16:42:22 UTC  

So much disinformation and manipulation from all players.

2018-09-03 16:42:32 UTC  

Yes, much like Charlottesville last year

2018-09-03 16:42:57 UTC  

Though the Police in Chemnits does a good job it seems.

2018-09-03 16:43:36 UTC  

And it looks like most of the people from the Protest are rather peaceful and do what the Police says

2018-09-03 16:44:08 UTC  

This is precisely the sort of thing that Yuri Bezmenov was talking about.

2018-09-03 16:47:31 UTC  

We are awash in information but have no ability to determine reality.

2018-09-03 16:49:08 UTC  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE2PP7EowdM&ab_channel=TomScott I saw this a while back that talked about disillusion with modern news at one point

2018-09-03 16:51:28 UTC  

There are mainstream media sources making claims that Putin is behind this.
<http://observer.com/2018/08/is-vladimir-putin-behind-right-wing-riots-in-chemnitz-germany/>
This was on the first page of Google results for 'chemnitz riots'

2018-09-03 16:51:34 UTC  

Holy fuck is the Media Insane?!

2018-09-03 16:51:50 UTC  

They even play the "muh Russia" Card in Chemnitz???

2018-09-03 16:51:59 UTC  

I'm totally at a loss of Words.

2018-09-03 16:53:17 UTC  

Maybe we should tag Tim and ask him to make a second Channel Video about that?

2018-09-03 16:54:17 UTC  

The only information that appears (at the moment at least) to be credible is that a man was stabbed to death, that the two suspects arrested in connection with the stabbing were migrants, and that a large public protest happened as a result. Any other information is suspect.

2018-09-03 16:54:49 UTC  

lolz. Honestly, fuck google and fuck the msm.

2018-09-03 16:54:56 UTC  

We know that Violence happened

2018-09-03 16:55:00 UTC  

Against Journalists

2018-09-03 16:55:09 UTC  

Who were illegaly entering an Appartment....

2018-09-03 16:55:11 UTC  

Claims about the motivation for the attack as suspect, claims about the migrant's backgrounds are suspect, claims about the size, political bent, organization, goals, etc, of the protest are suspect.

2018-09-03 16:55:25 UTC  

And trying to film some places, they were shouted away

2018-09-03 16:56:29 UTC  

Some say the attack happened because people involved were drunk, others say it happened because there was an attempted rape. Who you believe is completely dependent on your political biases.

2018-09-03 16:56:54 UTC  

Some say the migrants were criminals, others say they were there legally. Again, you just have to believe whatever you choose.

2018-09-03 16:57:55 UTC  

What I heard was that they only Harassed Women and the germans came to help the Women.

2018-09-03 16:57:56 UTC  

Some say the protest was nazis, others say it was just regular citizens. Some say it was 4000 people, others say it was 10000+. Some say it was peaceful, others say it was violent. Some say it was organic, others say it was orchestrated.

2018-09-03 16:57:59 UTC  

and then they got stabbed

2018-09-03 16:58:29 UTC  

Atkins, yes, who you believe is down to you but if you're going to play the numbers what would you put your money on.

2018-09-03 16:58:57 UTC  

We cannot trust the media when they have obvious political biases and agendas of their own, let alone German media which have legal restrictions which may literally prevent them from legally telling the truth even if they intend to.

2018-09-03 16:59:10 UTC  

@Atkins
With Nazis its the same as in the US. There are a couple but the Protest happened almost immideately and they got at least hundreds, if not thousands of people. That's just too much for Nazis. Though there might be some Racist and Pro 3rd Reich People there but they are a minority. Like 5% at most.