Message from @Grenade123

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2018-09-11 11:23:52 UTC  

you can encourage them, and this assumes Psychiatry even works for them, it might very well not do jack shit. But imagine if word got out that their Psychiatrist is treating a self-declared pedo.

2018-09-11 11:25:06 UTC  

this is all that is running through their head, meanwhile our only response to them is "well, Psychiatry is the best we got, go talk to one and hope it works and also hope no one finds out, especially your loved ones, why you need to see a psychiatrist"

2018-09-11 11:33:23 UTC  

All im saying os that is their resposibility to seek help, and its true. And there are therapies for those ppl. What then is your alternative to that? Not trying to seek help in fear of your doctor breaking medical secret? If they rather not to seek help, just because they are scared of that- then thats on them and only them if they commit crime.

2018-09-11 11:35:39 UTC  

And there are ppl who actually seek help before they did anything wrong. There are actual programs that can help those people.

2018-09-11 11:51:17 UTC  

^this

2018-09-11 11:56:26 UTC  

“ Redefining pedophilia with pedophile’s help “ by Tracy Clark-Flory on Salon

This article describes a group of “ minor- attracted persons “ trying to manipulate the revision of the diagnostic criteria for pedophiles as a “ motley crew” . Also describes pedophilia as a “ sexual orientation “ . This is an old article, but it shows us how long this agenda has been pushed in left wing circles.

http://archive.today/7DvNf

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2018-09-11 11:58:59 UTC  

We said this would happen with the whole sexual liberation thing but people dismissed it as a slippery slope fallacy.

2018-09-11 12:19:06 UTC  

Kind of assumed the next step would be legalization of polygamy. They could use the religious freedom angle.

2018-09-11 12:19:39 UTC  

But I guess they haven't exactly been facing much opposition so why not go for broke?

2018-09-11 12:46:05 UTC  

@bitels I never said they shouldn't or can't. But your original statement was "I don't get why he said 'there's nowhere to go with it'". I'm giving you a possible idea going through their head that is preventing them from seeking help. And it's gonna be hard to get them to seek help if they refuse to tell anyone for fear of backlash. It's a vicious cycle with no good solution outside of trying to drive a wedge in the public conscious between those who have the urges and those who act on them. And that is getting dangerously close to normalizing it.

2018-09-11 12:48:31 UTC  

@Atkins why would the legalization of polygamy come next when pedophilia was already pretty okay in religious circles. I mean, it's not pedophilia when the child is married to the rapist. There are still states that allow child brides. Then there is the problems in the church.

2018-09-11 13:23:24 UTC  

i saw this study long time ago

2018-09-11 13:23:35 UTC  

about homosexuality in countries were it was illegal

2018-09-11 13:24:22 UTC  

the study found that homosexuality was present in more than 2 times the usual rates in countries where is illegal than where it was not.

2018-09-11 13:25:18 UTC  

there were no solid conclusion other than to credit human behavior to the response of things that are illegal and imposed by an authority

2018-09-11 13:25:25 UTC  

so

2018-09-11 13:26:00 UTC  

this type of behavior is also relatable with drugs.

2018-09-11 13:27:14 UTC  

of course there are other factors like how addictive is a drug and social economical issues that lay heavy on drug abuse

2018-09-11 13:27:42 UTC  

but usually drug abuse is higher in countries where is illegal than where it isn't.

2018-09-11 13:28:02 UTC  

that goes for so many things

2018-09-11 13:28:08 UTC  

wonder if it follows for murder....

2018-09-11 13:28:28 UTC  

i guess theres a big % of the population that does things that are illegal because they are illegal

2018-09-11 13:28:42 UTC  

a big fuck you at the system

2018-09-11 13:28:48 UTC  

everyone does something illegal.

2018-09-11 13:28:50 UTC  

probably spreads to pedophilia too

2018-09-11 13:28:53 UTC  

most people speed

2018-09-11 13:30:08 UTC  

so, i am not sure how to aproach the pedophilia subject

2018-09-11 13:30:24 UTC  

should we do it in a understanding way?

2018-09-11 13:30:40 UTC  

i mean it could work to the point to lowering the pedophiles to half of the numbers they are

2018-09-11 13:31:05 UTC  

that or just find a way to test their blood and silently execute them

2018-09-11 13:31:10 UTC  

remove them from the gene pool

2018-09-11 13:32:06 UTC  

that assumes its genetic

2018-09-11 13:32:37 UTC  

more over, who we call pedophile would need to be better defined, specifically pre-pubescent attraction

2018-09-11 13:32:51 UTC  

wait

2018-09-11 13:33:10 UTC  

pedophiles are the ones atracted to prepubescent kids

2018-09-11 13:33:35 UTC  

theres other term called hebephile

2018-09-11 13:33:45 UTC  

Grenede- my original statement, was about that sentence i found false. There are actual places, people and programs that can help if someone is willing to seek help. Ofc i wasnt talking about talking about that with your coworkers, or someone like that, this is why I said "specialised [professional] help"

2018-09-11 13:34:31 UTC  

then your sentence was phrased weird. because it made you seem like you couldn't understand why he would think there is no help out there.

2018-09-11 13:34:44 UTC  

Im sorry if i wasnt clear enough, as you probably noticed english isnt my first, or even second language

2018-09-11 13:35:09 UTC  

didn't really notice tbh.

2018-09-11 13:35:56 UTC  

meaby we need to understand pedophilia more and redefine it