And take others down for your own benefit

Intelligence comes from examining life and learning the way to resolve situations with the least conflict

What if something can't be resolved?

And again, why is your system any more legitimate than another?

It can always be resolved

What makes your system better than mine?

Better? Define better.

Define good. Define moral. Define right.

Im speaking to rule from experience where as you are simply making it supernatural authoritarianism

Where did these concepts come from?

So where were these ideas before you were born?

The concepts stem from intelligence

No, because stupid people still know right from wrong

Which still stems from intelligence

Right and wrong are absolute concepts. Though not everything is necessarily right or wrong, what is right is right.

Of weighing consequence vs gain

It's an absolute concept. You can't be a little pregnant

Morality isnt absolutely though

And for you to say, it's righteous to "do unto others..." then where does that come from? Where did the idea first originate?

Isn't it? So are you saying there is an instance in which murder, rape, theft, etc are okay?

It came from the clever philosophers who wrote the bible

Where did those philosophers get the idea?

There is a difference between mala in se and mala prohibita

And what makes malum in se?

For instance is raping a child the same as being called a rapist for not reading a girls mind that she isnt comfortable

A tax collector, a fisherman, and a doctor who followed some new age philosopher?

Its the difference between things that are cleary wrong from things like speeding tickets

Also it all dates back to Socrates. Hardly new age

So the day before Socrates was born, it was okay to do something?

Socrates and other philosophers have influenced more than religion in many aspects

Okay so they are the origin of morality?

The concept as we study it not as an intangible aspect

You say these ideas go back to Socrates

Just like love still existed before the word did

Or pain or comfort

Who lived from 470 BC to 399 BC.

The Code of Ur Nammu was written around 2100 BC and includes things like, don't murder

And they were a western religion?

Judaism and Christianity aren't Western religions in your definition either

But you're deflecting

Socrates died 399 BC. The oldest discovered "written" law to date was chiseled 2100 BC