Message from @Deleted User

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2018-06-27 01:48:05 UTC  

Therefore its not right

2018-06-27 01:48:54 UTC  

Its only right if it would also be better to the same to you in that situation which it isnt

2018-06-27 01:48:56 UTC  

But what if that slaughter was done for the greater good?

2018-06-27 01:49:08 UTC  

And what gives this "Golden rule" you propose any more legitimacy than communism, survival of the fittest, or any other system?

2018-06-27 01:49:35 UTC  

It cant be the greater good because no person would advocate their own slaughter

2018-06-27 01:49:58 UTC  

Who are you to decide good?

2018-06-27 01:50:05 UTC  

When you divide into groups it becomes immoral

2018-06-27 01:50:08 UTC  

Is what is good for one man the same for all men?

2018-06-27 01:50:20 UTC  

We know this through intelligence.

2018-06-27 01:51:20 UTC  

If you try and slaughter the rich they use the riches to protect and enslave the poor trying to rise up

2018-06-27 01:51:31 UTC  

Where does intelligence come from? What determines more intelligent from less intelligent?

2018-06-27 01:51:32 UTC  

And take others down for your own benefit

2018-06-27 01:52:22 UTC  

Intelligence comes from examining life and learning the way to resolve situations with the least conflict

2018-06-27 01:52:37 UTC  

What if something can't be resolved?

2018-06-27 01:52:50 UTC  

And again, why is your system any more legitimate than another?

2018-06-27 01:52:54 UTC  

It can always be resolved

2018-06-27 01:53:48 UTC  

What makes your system better than mine?

2018-06-27 01:54:31 UTC  

Better? Define better.

2018-06-27 01:54:52 UTC  

Define good. Define moral. Define right.

2018-06-27 01:54:54 UTC  

Im speaking to rule from experience where as you are simply making it supernatural authoritarianism

2018-06-27 01:54:58 UTC  

Where did these concepts come from?

2018-06-27 01:55:12 UTC  

So where were these ideas before you were born?

2018-06-27 01:55:20 UTC  

The concepts stem from intelligence

2018-06-27 01:55:40 UTC  

No, because stupid people still know right from wrong

2018-06-27 01:55:53 UTC  

Which still stems from intelligence

2018-06-27 01:56:01 UTC  

Right and wrong are absolute concepts. Though not everything is necessarily right or wrong, what is right is right.

2018-06-27 01:56:07 UTC  

Of weighing consequence vs gain

2018-06-27 01:56:18 UTC  

It's an absolute concept. You can't be a little pregnant

2018-06-27 01:56:48 UTC  

Morality isnt absolutely though

2018-06-27 01:57:07 UTC  

And for you to say, it's righteous to "do unto others..." then where does that come from? Where did the idea first originate?

2018-06-27 01:57:34 UTC  

Isn't it? So are you saying there is an instance in which murder, rape, theft, etc are okay?

2018-06-27 01:57:42 UTC  

It came from the clever philosophers who wrote the bible

2018-06-27 01:57:57 UTC  

Where did those philosophers get the idea?

2018-06-27 01:58:05 UTC  

There is a difference between mala in se and mala prohibita

2018-06-27 01:58:57 UTC  

And what makes malum in se?

2018-06-27 01:59:21 UTC  

For instance is raping a child the same as being called a rapist for not reading a girls mind that she isnt comfortable

2018-06-27 01:59:39 UTC  

A tax collector, a fisherman, and a doctor who followed some new age philosopher?

2018-06-27 01:59:57 UTC  

Its the difference between things that are cleary wrong from things like speeding tickets

2018-06-27 02:00:45 UTC  

Also it all dates back to Socrates. Hardly new age

2018-06-27 02:01:24 UTC  

So the day before Socrates was born, it was okay to do something?

2018-06-27 02:02:12 UTC  

Socrates and other philosophers have influenced more than religion in many aspects