the US has screwed most of those countries over in the first place (Banana Republics ring a bell?), and preventing people from searching for a better life for their family is wrong imo, especially by force

let them travel
if they cause harm, they can be dealt with

but as long as they're peacefully pursuing happiness, force is unjustified

No. Wall. Deport. Not a charity.

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You want to pay for these people, take it out of your paycheck.

Go donate to some charity operating there.

Don't force me to pay for this shit.

Don't force me to deal with the social consequences of unlimited, unrestricted third-world migrants.

If you want to deal with this crap go to Germany. Don't fuck up this country.

i'm not forcing shit
if your complaint is about taxes, that's fair, they suck ass
but don't blame the vulnerable, blame the rich twits who line their pockets and those of their friends

I don't care about these people. They need to stay the fuck out.

the asylum seekers aren't the ones forcing you to pay taxes lol

if you don't care, why encourage the use of force to stop them from pursuing a comfortable life?

>They need to stay the fuck out

chill out until they actually do harm

No. They have no right to be here. We are not a charity. They stay the fuck out.

No compromise.

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k, you're a broken record

I have no reason to negotiate here.

They stay out.

You're trying to appeal to my empathy. I have none for these people.

Appeal to my logic instead.

this isn't a negotiation lol
neither of us are politicians, we don't need to make a deal or compromise

i was trying to reason with you, and you just fall back on emotional points that you don't care

No, you have not reasoned at all. You have provided no valid reason as to why these foreigners should be permitted into the US.

You have appealed to emotion by saying they are vulnerable.

I do not care if they are vulnerable. That is not a valid reason for letting them into the US.

If they are vulnerable and have legitimate reason for seeking asylum they can do so in Guatemala in accordance with international law.

because i think that the peaceful pursuit of happiness and liberty should be granted until there's a good reason to restrict it
you're being driven by bizarre emotional ideas about taxes and borders, to encourage the use of force to stop them from doing harmless travelling

you "don't care", yet insist on preventing them from doing stuff that isn't any of your business

Peaceful pursuit of happiness is not a valid reason to let them into the US. There is no law saying "you must let unhappy people in". Not wanting my tax dollars to go to law-breaking non-citizens is not illogical or emotional. It is rational.

if we disagree on the premise that peaceful pursuit of those things is important, then fair enough, i concede that my reasoning is futile

Countries are not charities. We have no obligation to spend our wealth on foreigners.

We have no obligation to let foreigners in.

you're spending your wealth keeping people out for no good reason

The good reason is that they are not American.

you assume the default is to keep them out

and that the choice is whether to actively let them in or not

when it's the reverse