Message from @shinsoo
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They don't get to shop around.
which would be Canada :^)
"The Interior and Foreign Relations ministries said in a joint statement that any migrant in the caravan without proper immigration papers would be arrested and “returned to their country of origin.” Those with proper documents or wishing to apply for asylum would be allowed to enter Mexico."
yeah, so mexico will only allow those with documents or actual asylum seekers to pass
If people in El Salvador or Honduras have a legitimate case for asylum they should apply in Guatemala.
that's neither safe nor reliable tho
Guatemala as far as I am aware is not currently engaged in a conflict. They can apply for asylum there.
We are not a charity and we have no obligation to take in all the world's poor just because they are poor.
the US has screwed most of those countries over in the first place (Banana Republics ring a bell?), and preventing people from searching for a better life for their family is wrong imo, especially by force
let them travel
if they cause harm, they can be dealt with
but as long as they're peacefully pursuing happiness, force is unjustified
No. Wall. Deport. Not a charity.
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You want to pay for these people, take it out of your paycheck.
Go donate to some charity operating there.
Don't force me to pay for this shit.
Don't force me to deal with the social consequences of unlimited, unrestricted third-world migrants.
If you want to deal with this crap go to Germany. Don't fuck up this country.
i'm not forcing shit
if your complaint is about taxes, that's fair, they suck ass
but don't blame the vulnerable, blame the rich twits who line their pockets and those of their friends
I don't care about these people. They need to stay the fuck out.
if you don't care, why encourage the use of force to stop them from pursuing a comfortable life?
>They need to stay the fuck out
chill out until they actually do harm
No. They have no right to be here. We are not a charity. They stay the fuck out.
No compromise.
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k, you're a broken record
I have no reason to negotiate here.
They stay out.
You're trying to appeal to my empathy. I have none for these people.
Appeal to my logic instead.
this isn't a negotiation lol
neither of us are politicians, we don't need to make a deal or compromise
i was trying to reason with you, and you just fall back on emotional points that you don't care
No, you have not reasoned at all. You have provided no valid reason as to why these foreigners should be permitted into the US.
You have appealed to emotion by saying they are vulnerable.
I do not care if they are vulnerable. That is not a valid reason for letting them into the US.
If they are vulnerable and have legitimate reason for seeking asylum they can do so in Guatemala in accordance with international law.
because i think that the peaceful pursuit of happiness and liberty should be granted until there's a good reason to restrict it
you're being driven by bizarre emotional ideas about taxes and borders, to encourage the use of force to stop them from doing harmless travelling
you "don't care", yet insist on preventing them from doing stuff that isn't any of your business
Peaceful pursuit of happiness is not a valid reason to let them into the US. There is no law saying "you must let unhappy people in". Not wanting my tax dollars to go to law-breaking non-citizens is not illogical or emotional. It is rational.