Message from @shinsoo

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2018-10-17 22:19:14 UTC  

i know there's migration paths and caravans from middle america to the US, but everything else is conjecture

2018-10-17 22:20:02 UTC  

especially the part about them "storming the US border @ election time"

2018-10-17 22:21:20 UTC  

yeah, that caravan arrived in april this year

2018-10-17 22:21:46 UTC  

honestly, Gaetz' tweet is nonsensical fearmongering, trying to make a mountain out of a molehill

2018-10-17 22:23:50 UTC  

If there is an organization funding criminal activity, i.e. illegal border crossing, it should be investigated. If any of that money is coming from American sources, they should be charged.

2018-10-17 22:24:48 UTC  

All these illegal immigrants should be detained and deported. Any country aiding them in their passage should have their aid revoked and sanctions put in place.

2018-10-17 22:25:52 UTC  

Countries are not charities. We don't have to put up with this crap.

2018-10-17 22:26:17 UTC  

most of them are asylum seekers, which isn't illegal
crossing the border illegally is punished, but afaik no liberal org is encouraging it

2018-10-17 22:26:38 UTC  

(a few more radical orgs might be)

2018-10-17 22:26:52 UTC  

but eh, not a big fan of borders

2018-10-17 22:26:59 UTC  

Asylum seekers have to apply for asylum at the nearest safe country.

2018-10-17 22:27:04 UTC  

They don't get to shop around.

2018-10-17 22:27:17 UTC  

which would be Canada :^)

2018-10-17 22:27:39 UTC  

"The Interior and Foreign Relations ministries said in a joint statement that any migrant in the caravan without proper immigration papers would be arrested and “returned to their country of origin.” Those with proper documents or wishing to apply for asylum would be allowed to enter Mexico."

2018-10-17 22:28:39 UTC  

yeah, so mexico will only allow those with documents or actual asylum seekers to pass

2018-10-17 22:28:42 UTC  

If people in El Salvador or Honduras have a legitimate case for asylum they should apply in Guatemala.

2018-10-17 22:29:30 UTC  

that's neither safe nor reliable tho

2018-10-17 22:30:48 UTC  

Guatemala as far as I am aware is not currently engaged in a conflict. They can apply for asylum there.
We are not a charity and we have no obligation to take in all the world's poor just because they are poor.

2018-10-17 22:32:27 UTC  

the US has screwed most of those countries over in the first place (Banana Republics ring a bell?), and preventing people from searching for a better life for their family is wrong imo, especially by force

2018-10-17 22:32:53 UTC  

let them travel
if they cause harm, they can be dealt with

2018-10-17 22:33:13 UTC  

but as long as they're peacefully pursuing happiness, force is unjustified

2018-10-17 22:34:39 UTC  

No. Wall. Deport. Not a charity.

2018-10-17 22:35:00 UTC  

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2018-10-17 22:35:02 UTC  

You want to pay for these people, take it out of your paycheck.

2018-10-17 22:35:15 UTC  

Go donate to some charity operating there.

2018-10-17 22:35:19 UTC  

Don't force me to pay for this shit.

2018-10-17 22:35:49 UTC  

Don't force me to deal with the social consequences of unlimited, unrestricted third-world migrants.

2018-10-17 22:36:16 UTC  

If you want to deal with this crap go to Germany. Don't fuck up this country.

2018-10-17 22:36:41 UTC  

i'm not forcing shit
if your complaint is about taxes, that's fair, they suck ass
but don't blame the vulnerable, blame the rich twits who line their pockets and those of their friends

2018-10-17 22:37:13 UTC  

I don't care about these people. They need to stay the fuck out.

2018-10-17 22:37:16 UTC  

the asylum seekers aren't the ones forcing you to pay taxes lol

2018-10-17 22:37:35 UTC  

if you don't care, why encourage the use of force to stop them from pursuing a comfortable life?

2018-10-17 22:37:46 UTC  

>They need to stay the fuck out

2018-10-17 22:37:47 UTC  

chill out until they actually do harm

2018-10-17 22:38:10 UTC  

No. They have no right to be here. We are not a charity. They stay the fuck out.

2018-10-17 22:38:19 UTC  

No compromise.

2018-10-17 22:38:21 UTC  

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2018-10-17 22:38:32 UTC  

k, you're a broken record

2018-10-17 22:38:41 UTC  

I have no reason to negotiate here.