Nearly all atheists have bibles. They read them to mock christians, and I think thats a bit rude, but if you use the book to study & understand the otherside, then I am fully supporting you.

oh, one atheist won't agree fully with another just like one christian won't either.. both share the same concept of agreeing with the bigger picture but arguing over details

They do, but so do all Christians.

a secular nation probably wouldn't be any better than a religious one

In fact, I carry one around because I end up getting in debates with Atheists quite a lot.

A secular nation/society would not be much of a society at all.

that is your opinion

It would destroy itself through division or be condemned to authoritarianism.

there has never been a secular nation so you have no basis for comparison and only a hypothesis

republican spain?

Yeah, Republican Spain during the Spanish Civil War.

They actually perpetuated crimes against Catholic priests.

Well if you want to wipe out all religions, vote for commies, they have tried that many times 🤔

People will be always creating new religions

You can't really stop that

Religion as a PERSONAL thing is fine. when it is forced, then its a problem

Its part of our psychology.

over time we may be able to overcome that

or at least, tame it

Lets say you take 50children from all of the nations, and then abandon them to random island for 20years.
When you come back they have invented their own religion

and they will hold fast to their belief and they will be the right one and all others will be blasphemy

No, you really can't.

The problem is human nature is wired to desiring order and sense in seeming chaos and madness. It's why religion is as popular as it is.

Even if the religion doesnt teach that the gods have created the world, even then the young children will say that earth was created by god(s).

I believe it would happen... it is in our nature to be curious.. as children we always ask questions.... in a remote location with no other influence, stories would be made up to answer those questions

People turn to religion because it attempts to bring about a sense of order and clarity needed to make sense of the world around them. Without it, people are misguided and lost until they find something to make sense of the world around them. Hence why Atheists are more likely to adopt strong ideological positions and are often targeted by ideologues.

we are curious beings, for sure.

my view is that religion stops the question

what more is there to ask when every answer is "god"?

Not necessarily, no. Religion simply provides order and clarity to help guide us through our lives. Curiosity is good, but too much of a good thing becomes a vice.

We wont ever fully understand the world, all of the versatility & complexity can be proof of designer for some people.

But, yeah, back on Republican Spain, they did some extremely horrific stuff.

I think there is no such thing as too much curiosity. We want and need answers... regardless of the fact we will never understand it all, the pursuit of knowledge is what has driven advancements for a looooong time

so... Republican Spain.. are we talking right wing?

No, Left-wing.

They were Communists.

confused by the term"republican" used there

Nationalist Spain was the right-wing contengent.

People have always been searching for meaning & explonation for the world. For some people best answer is God, because with God and religion you can have fundamental meaning behind everything.

But, yeah, Republican Spain hated religion so much that they actually perpetrated Post-Mortem desecration.

I personally believe that "god" is an excuse to stop asking and looking